I don't believe the worst of God. I believe that the statements in the Bible literally mean what they say.
If you believed this, you would not suggest that someone can have both the God of the bible and evolution. So here you are admitting that you believe the statements in the bible literally mean what they say.....yet you've contradicted this in the past on here by suggesting that one can believe both.
I have said that the Bible means what it says but it may be inaccurate.
Rabbits don't chew cud...the Bible is wrong about that.
It is internally inconsistent in its description of the number of stables that Solomon had.
It says that God hated Esau but also says God loves everyone.
There are a number of others that I can mention.
So the Bible is capable of being inaccurate if you take it completely literally.
As I am a believer, I do not need to reconcile my beliefs with evolution, simply to fit it in with the proponents of evolution. There is no evidence evolution has even occured, therefore I am not obliged to believe it. And as I have said, so far there has been nothing that has contradicted what the bible has already taught. Whether one is an atheist or not, you cannot have it both ways. Fence sitters don't get into Heaven. Christ said you are either for Me, or against Me.
Matthew 12:30 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters." Are you saying that in this statement Jesus meant that everyone who doesn't believe that rabbits chew cud is against Him? You seem to be when you state that literal belief in the Bible is required to be on Jesus' side. I thought Paul said in Romans that simple belief in Jesus as God's son and turning your life over to Him was necessary for salvation. This is contradicted by the parable of the sheep and goats BTW.
Either you accept Him at His word, or you doubt Him and instead take onboard a philosophy that seeks to exclude God completely or at the very least undermine the foundation of the bible, which is the beginning/Genesis, which then throws doubt on every other area of the bible. Even Jesus said "if they believe not Moses, how will they believe that one rose from the dead"? Even Jesus knew the price of compromising the word of God at any stage in the bible.
What words of Moses did Jesus mean? All of them? So I do have to believe that rabbits chew cud in order to believe in Jesus?
Since you brought it up, let us suppose that a man realizes that the universe had to have been created by a god. What do you provide to him in order to prove your God is the one he should choose to worship?
I don't need to provide anything, God has provided everything. More than enough for anybody to believe. God has provided the bible, His word and HIs son Jesus Christ to die on a cross for our sins, the witnesses and the miracles that have occured down throughout the ages. If we deny Him, He in turn will deny us. It's faith and it's faithfulness. My God IS God. Tell me what other God has died for the sins of His creation and risen from the dead? Has power over life and death, has the keys to eternal life, performed miracles through His son Jesus Christ as a testament to His divinity amongst many witnesses, continues the same work through us with the Holy Spirit to this day. Hey, you can choose to believe it's false if you wish. Again, I am not obliged to provide anything more than what God has already given, one is truly without excuse. You are already quoting from the bible yourself, what more do you need than God's word Linear? Do you need to be spoon-fed? Many people have not even had the chance.
I'm sorry, but the only thing that provides evidence of Christ's sacrifice is a set of scrolls that eventually became a set of books after much wrangling about which scrolls to include (Council of Nicea) and then some of those were removed by Protestant leaders (in violation of what many of those leaders claim Revelations says is not allowed).
At least I haven't seen Jesus' name written in the stars and no rocks have cried out around me....how about you? Even if the heavens declare God's glory they don't declare which God it is.
There are people who know God through His creation. They may not know God as "Christ", as their personal savior. God would not reject these people! because they do not know. It is those who KNOW the truth, have heard the truth and have rejected the truth simply because it satisfies their lifestyle and intellectual pride, are the ones I speak of. Not those that are innocent. I believe there is more than enough to draw a person to God, and to draw anybody back to God (if they have gone astray). As I have said to you, God, through His creation has provided more than enough proof that He exists. Rejection of that truth is the choice of the one who rejects. When we get down to "who" this "God" really is (the person of God) is when we share with people the good news of salvation with others. Jesus also said Linear that when you share this with others and they reject it, shake the dust from your feet and move on.
When do you KNOW that Christ is God? As soon as you are told it? Is that the point where you are no longer innocent? So as soon as I see a bumper sticker that says Jesus Saves, I KNOW Christ is God and am now held accountable?
How does this idea that those who never heard of Christ are heaven-bound line up with Christ's own statement that the only way to the Father is through Him?
The miracles of Christ and those who witnessed them are a reality, not a fable and they continue today as evidence that Christ never left us, but rather sent His Holy Spirit. The workings and miracles still being done in the name of Jesus happen around the world.
Show me one.
You are totally correct. Thessalonians 2:11 - And therefore God sends on them
a power that deludes people so that they believe what is false, and so that those who do not believe the truth and take their pleasure in wickedness may all be condemned.
Are you sure you stated this the way you intended? You are saying that God is deluding people to believe what is false and then condemning them for holding that belief. Doesn't sound like Christ's father to me.
Though I do believe evolution has actually been referred to in the bible in certain respects, though not by "name" (as dinosaurs are also referred to in the bible, but they did not have the name dinosaur (no surprise).
Take another look at that passage in Job. Even the NIV claims that is may refer to Hippopotamus.
Some tell themselves that there are many ways to eternal life, yet Christ says there is one way. And it is through Him. He said "I am the way, the truth and the life". (Not a way, a truth and a life)
Yet you claim that those who don't know about Him still can go to heaven. Biblical support for that claim would be nice.
By the way, why do you want me to type out what that video already contains? It is only 52 minutes long and does not require you to sit there downloading for hours.
I did watch it. He makes all sorts of claims, an number of them false, with little or no evidence to support.
He starts out saying that God could do anything He wants, even violate the laws of physics. Maybe so, but that just puts in an excuse to avoid investigating how things started.
Light speed faster in the past? How would that affect what we see billions of light years away? He doesn't even address that. Besides that is easily refuted by looking at supernova SN-1987A. Google it sometime.
Time moves faster at the edge of the universe? How would that affect what we see billions of light years away? Nuclear reactions and radioactive decay would happen faster. Do we see that....nope.
Spiral galaxies should have turned into an amorphous disk by now? If time moved faster in at the edge of the universe, then the spiral galaxies there shouldn't exist....but they do.
So which is it, faster time so we can see those spiral galaxies that shouldn't exist billions of light years away or faster light so that SN-1987A is actually farther than 160,000 light years away and thus must have exploded before God created it? You tell me.
Should I really go through the entire video in this manner or would you like to bring up his claims one at a time to discuss in detail?
It seems like I am being too adamant about pointing out how silly these claims seem to be. I am not trying to say you are not intelligent, just misinformed by people you trust. Maybe they are misinformed, too. However, their claims to be scientists along with how easily a non-scientist like me can look up the information, makes it seem that they are being willfully ignorant...just as you claim I am being about the truth of the Bible.
You have rejected it and instead preferred to state that I've given nothing on here in support of young earth/7 day creation, which is simply a lie.
I already said that the video was evidence that you have put forth. It is just not compelling. In fact, it is mainly bare assertions that amount to a load of baloney.
