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Joined: Mar 2008
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I'm saying since the evidence shows there can be no ancestor, there is no tree. The hippo can't be the ancestor. Saying the hippo and whale are related is not saying that one is the ancestor of the other. Your cousin is not your ancestor but he is related to you. The 99% make-believe critter extrapolated from teeth can't be the ancestor. What evidence shows you this? The "old model ancestor" can't be the ancestor. Please show me where the articles say this. It's starting to look like I'll have to wait 'til I stumble across something else. I don't see room for much more clarification or elaboration. You haven't clarified anything. All you've done is say that since there is a bit of controversy concerning the relationships, that there is no relationship. I'm done wasting time on this. You don't care whether the whale has an ancestor or not, and we both know it. I'll play no double-talk games. It's the same as abiogenesis. One group clearly sees the old model's dead & hopes to find something else. One group sees the hippo & tooth fantasy don't work, and are gambling that the mainstream will let things fall back to the old model since there's nothing better. The last group's banking on the imaginary ancestor because the old one's dead and the hippo won't work; but even they themselves say this critter's not right & they hope to find something better. That's a big paragraph, but the DNA says the hippo is the candidate, and the evodates rule out the hippo. Your position is that you don't give a crap that NONE of these are viable options, so long as there's "controversy". You'll accept any totally bogus option they choose in spite of the evidence. When homology doesn't work, you overlook it. When DNA homology doesn't work, you'll overlook it. If you cared seriously about honestly applying homology of any type, you wouldn't be an evolutionist. I know from my own experience because I tried really hard to make it work. It can't be done. And the situation has become much, much more difficult since I gave up trying. My position is: I'm finished wasting time with the mess. I've demonstrated my point clearly enough for anyone to understand, and I'm done.
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
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