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#34201 03/29/08 11:20 AM
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The Adventures of Evo-Woman and Circle Boy

/Deep in the underground complex of the X Organization, Circle Boy reports for duty./

Circle Boy: imnotworthy I am prepared and awaiting instructions.

X4: A situation has come up. Evo-Man is hospitalbed You are assigned to work with :bellydance: until he recovers. Proceed to Baltimore, MD and assist her.

Circle Boy: imnotworthy Yes, my master. chopper

Rolled in from another town,
Hit some gold too hot to settle down,
But a fool and his money soon go separate ways,
And you found a fool lyin in a daze,
Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman!

..................................
/Circle Boy arrives just in the nick of time. Evo-Woman has been confronted by a dangerous fact/

Circle Boy: byebye

Evo-Woman: byebye yourself! Can't you see I'm busy!

Fact: swordfighting En garde, Evo-Woman!

Evo-Woman: Goggle up, Circle Boy! I don't want to lose you

Circle Boy: cool Goggles on, Evo-Woman. How can I help?

Evo-Woman: Establish a link to the database, and be quick about it!

Fact: playhorsey I'm gonna knock some sense into you, Evo-Woman.

Circle Boy: ebay Power on... Logging in... dancefiction ...Link established!

Evo-Woman: Hurry, Circle Boy. Lies-on-file, Class 14, Genetics, is there a listing?

Circle Boy: rockout Got it!

Evo-Woman: Okay Fact, by the power vested in me by the lies in the database, I hereby proclaim you a PRATT, and banish you. Be gone!

Fact: reallymad

Circle Boy: owned

Evo-Woman: bunnydance But we can't celebrate too long. We have a report of students asking questions in Baton Rouge. There are indications IDeas may be involved.

trike
Hey woman, you got the blues,
cos you aint got no one else to use.
Theres an open road that leads nowhere,
So just make some miles between here and there.
Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman!

........................................
/Arriving at Mint Julep Middleschool, it's obvious things are out of control./

Students: happynewyear talkingandtalking smilieprotest yipee
Evo-Woman: censored We need to find the graduation

Circle Boy: onthephone The principal told him to take some time off, with pay. He's in his rvtime

Evo-Woman: You stay here and spy Be on the lookout for any trace of IDeas. I'll talk to the graduation We better play it safe, Circle Boy. Don full battle gear.

Circle Boy: mixing Goggles on. Head up and locked!

/Arriving at the rvtime , Evo-Woman managed to locate the graduation

graduation : Who's there? behindthecouch

Evo-Woman: You're safe now. It's :bellydance: Can you tell me what happened?

graduation : Well, we were just starting the third day of indoctrination, when a bunch of questions came up. Next thing I knew, ithitsthefan It all happened so fast! It was a nightmare!

Evo-Woman: Calm down. And stop underachair You're perfectly safe now. Just be calm and try to remember what kind of questions were involved.

graduation : underachair I'll stay here if you don't mind. The questions were about fossils, and homology, and natural selection...

Evo-Woman: Stop stop stop. That could be a hundred different things, all dangerously valid. I need to know which specific questions were involved. We have thousands of lies on file, but we have to know what we're dealing with. More importantly, did you see any sign of IDeas in the area?

graduation : I'm sorry. It all just happened so fast! They were asking about sunnyflower and :halloweenbat: and :chickenwalk: . And our books are so out-of-date, we really don't have...

Evo-Woman: Nonsense! Out-of-date books are no excuse. Just what do you think is so out-of-date about your books?

graduation : Well, Piltdown Man has been debunked for...

Evo-Woman: Piltdown Man is an outstanding example of how science works! Mistakes are made, and science catches them. It's supposed to work that way.

graduation : But you have to admit, they should have figured it out a lot sooner. And after it was caught, why couldn't it be taken out of the textbooks?

Evo-Woman: Horse evolution was debunked just about as long ago, and I don't hear you complaining about that!

graduation : It was?

Evo-Woman: taz That's enough IDea talk! I'm putting you on report. If we took all the debunked ape-men out of the books, we wouldn't have anything left. That's out of the question!

graduation : cold I was just trying to help. I'm sorry.

Evo-Woman: I suppose I can overlook it this time. But I better not ever catch you questioning out-of-date concepts again. Everything we stand for is at stake!
...................................
/Having no luck with her investigation, Evo-Woman decides to return to the Middleschool./
Evo-Woman how you done me wrong,
But now you're tryin to wail a different song,
Ha ha funny how you broke me up,
You made the wine now you drink the cup
Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman! Ee-Evo-Woman!


Circle Boy: coolthumbsup Love your themesong, Evo-Woman. I always was a big ELO Speedwagon fan

Evo-Woman: Any sign of IDea involvement?

Circle Boy: This is a new assignment for me. I'm afraid I wouldn't know an IDea if I met one.

/Evo-Woman and Circle Boy have been spotted by the students/

Students: signhi happynewyear dance jesuslovesyou byebye Hi strangers!

Evo-Woman: Mission aborted! Let's get out of here!

Evo-Woman and Circle Boy: trike

Circle Boy: What now, Evo-Woman? usarmy ?

Evo-Woman: Yes, usarmy I'm afraid we have no choice. I just hope the parents aren't armed Contact headquarters and request a full media blitz as well.

..............................................................

I have chosen to take Post #252946 in the Cracking Down thread as a challenge. Put your words in my mouth, will you? Let us now see who writes better fiction! I'm confident my fiction is more credible, more entertaining, and of higher overall quality than that of the competition. And my work is presented as fiction - I don't try to pass it off as anything else.

Last edited by CTD; 05/31/13 05:54 PM.

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"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
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#34202 03/29/08 01:31 PM
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

#34203 03/30/08 07:57 AM
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Wow, this is such a high-brow presentation. I'm just at a loss to respond to the intelligent, well-argued and well-substantiated logical claims here.

If I posted something like this people wouldn't be laughing, they'd be telling me all over again how I am belittling Christians and how hate-filled I am. Gotta admire the double standard. I could do something like this too, I quite like writing, but somehow the idea of insulting the other side in such a stupid way never occurred to me.

You consistently dodge questions and repeat your baseless assertions over and over. They are evident here, along with plenty of PRATTs, and yet again there is an obvious intention to substantiate zero of it. Do you understand what "evidence" is and why it is important when we are attempting to find the truth? Or did you just come here to share your fantasy in your head with everyone and ignore what anyone says to you about it?

You're trollin' man.

#34204 03/30/08 08:33 AM
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At least this dig towards evolutionists had humor involved and wasn't the ongoing serious and caustic broad generalisations that you have made towards Christianity and Christians, rather than just Creationism itself...

You mention that evolution isn't a religion, yet here you are openly admitting the similarity by claiming double standards when evolution is made fun of like Christianity....

Who has the double standards here I wonder? It's one thing when you take digs at Creation, which you guys have done freely on this forum (and have had the same in return), but when you start trying to misrepresent Christians in general, rather than just addressing creationism itself or focussing on that and those representing it, then you deserve to be reprimanded.

This humour p*ss-take, does not compare with the ongoing past Christian axe grinds by you Linda. The to and fro insults of creation V evolution have been equal in insults, and you're simply side stepping that to compare it with the fact you got reprimanded the Christian ones. You have not been reprimanded for the creation putdowns as far as I know? We've had insults by both sides many times and they continue......






#34205 03/30/08 08:51 AM
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This is unusually acerbic coming from you Bex.

What I meant was that if I'd written a little cartoon satirising what I consider to be the most nonsensical views of creationists, then I would have been condemned by every creationist here. And I just don't think it's a very nice or respectful thing to do

Instead, I can see some of the facts that have been painstakingly documented here ignored, twisted and ridiculed in what is a clear indication that CTD takes nothing on board and would simply appear to be trolling. He is not interested in engaging in any serious discussion of the issues and sees no need to back up any of his repetitious claims.

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when you start trying to misrepresent Christians in general, rather than just addressing creationism itself or focussing on that and those representing it, then you deserve to be reprimanded.


Again, unusually harsh from you. How is challenging young earth creationism the same as misrepresenting Christians? The evidence points to an old earth on which life evolved. The vast majority of religious people on the planet have no problem accepting this and being religious, so it is a non-issue for them.

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The to and fro insults of creation V evolution have been equal in insults


Since when is presenting scientific evidence an insult to Christianity? Can Christians not evaluate evidence the same as anybody else?

I admit I've been impatient with CTD, but that is because it is becoming more and more evident that he is only here to provoke. He is not engaged in any serious discussions and almost everything he says is an emotional argument rather than being based on logic and evidence. Witness what he's done here, which is what other propagandists do. The aim is to evoke an emotional response, and here it's humour. This post isn't designed to get you to engage your brain, it's meant to get you to laugh at his strawman idea of what an evolutionist is.

If people like him ever get round to wanting to talk about the actual evidence, then maybe there will be some real substance involved in this thread again. I doubt if it will happen with him though because I think he's purposefully dodging the issues. You, however, are welcome to raise the creationist standards here and present some questions or ideas that we can all discuss.

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#34207 03/30/08 04:23 PM
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I am talking about the sarcasm and contempt from you towards Christianity and Christians on here, not about creationism itself (or young earth belief) and that's the point I was making. That's not being harsh, it's just pointing that out in retaliation to your own post. You making unfair comparisons. Who has reprimanded you and stopped you from speaking freely against creation on here? or young earth belief?

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Since when is presenting scientific evidence an insult to Christianity? Can Christians not evaluate evidence the same as anybody else?


I can't believe this. Honestly, does anybody want to argue with Linda and point out to her that it is her direct sarcasm and caustic comments towards Christiantiy as a religion on here that she's made a few times. Not to do with her ongoing oppositions to creation and presenting what she believes is "evidence". Talk about twisting things. Yes, we've heard the evidence statements time and time again, and apparently you guys have " Truck loads". Is this the way evolutionists work to convince? Rather than just letting the apparent evidence speak for itself and silence all arguments. Keep repeating this over again, and hopefully one will believe it through sheer repetition.

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I admit I've been impatient with CTD, but that is because it is becoming more and more evident that he is only here to provoke. He is not engaged in any serious discussions and almost everything he says is an emotional argument rather than being based on logic and evidence. Witness what he's done here, which is what other propagandists do. The aim is to evoke an emotional response, and here it's humour. This post isn't designed to get you to engage your brain, it's meant to get you to laugh at his strawman idea of what an evolutionist is


I've witnessed what he's done on here, I simply see that he has a far greater understanding of the way evolutionists behave and work than I do and seems fluent in evolutionese, which some of us may not be. I don't see emotionalism in his posts at all to be honest, but I see it much more in yours.

CTD is a welcome relief to me because he hits you back on your own level. That's how I see it, I don't expect you to see it in the same way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I don't have the inclination to get involved as much. I enjoy reading sometimes, but debating is something that usually leaves a bad taste in ones mouth.

It was a "fictitional" p*ss-take. I hardly see it as being threatening, just amusing.

#34208 03/30/08 05:23 PM
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I am talking about the sarcasm and contempt from you towards Christianity and Christians on here

Please tell me where I am being sarcastic and contemptuous toward all Christians and Christianity. My main goal here lately has been to try to emphasise the importance of backing up claims with evidence. If you see my questioning of the scientific accuracy of creationist claims as blatant attacks on Christianity then I guess I can't help you there, it's your perspective, but I can't follow the logic.

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Yes, we've heard the evidence statements time and time again, and apparently you guys have " Truck loads". Is this the way evolutionists work to convince? Rather than just letting the apparent evidence speak for itself and silence all arguments. Keep repeating this over again, and hopefully one will believe it through sheer repetition.

Can I ask how likely you or any other creationists here are to actually look at the evidence in the first place, as opposed to accepting what creationist organisations tell you? How can the evidence speak for itself if it is never presented? There have been many posts here that have contained inaccuracies and without any evolutionists here they never would have been pointed out. Are you telling me that you prefer not to know? That it's better to be ignorant of the facts? Again, it's your perspective maybe, but I can't follow the logic.

I'm also not trying to silence anyone. I really would like some better conversations to be going on here, but this requires engaging with the issues. There isn't a lot of that at the moment. I don't want silence, I want to talk, and I think that if this forum is going to be for evolutionists as well as creationists, then at least one evolutionist needs to be here to represent that perspective. Again, if people here including Russ don't want to listen to it, then he can turn it into Creationists' Corner if he wants. Denying the evidence doesn't make it go away but that would assure that it was kept at arm's length from you at least.

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I've witnessed what he's done on here, I simply see that he has a far greater understanding of the way evolutionists behave and work than I do and seems fluent in evolutionese, which some of us may not be.

You mean he's better at throwing terms such as "evolutionism" into most posts, dodging requests for evidence, and making baseless assertions? Sure, he takes those things to an art form. It doesn't mean he's engaging with the actual issues at all. He came here because the people on the EvC forum kept showing up his substanceless claims and complaints of being picked on for what they were, and he knows he has a more sympathetic audience here. Most of the people here are going to cheer him on, rather than tell him he needs to provide evidence for his assertions. You and Russ have actually provided a lot more substance in conversations here than he has.

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I hardly see it as being threatening, just amusing.

It's not threatening at all. It just lowers the bar some more and makes it even less likely that a serious discussion is going to take place any time soon. You could all start writing cartoons like this if you wanted, prevent discussion from happening at all, and the evolutionists would leave here. It wouldn't refect too well on you though, if you're actually wanting to convince people that creationism can seriously challenge evolution in any way.

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Linda get over it! It's a hilarious send-up. if you can't laugh? Get somebody to tickle you! I'm thru engaging you further with ongoing analysis and debates. Had I the health and spoke evolutionese? I might be so inclined.

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Okay . . . I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear, then, that as tempting as it is, I will not respond with my own cartoon of hilarious creationist stuff. It could take place, maybe, in a high school physics class taught by "Dr. Dino." I don't think you'd like it though and I'm not out to wind you up.

Let's see, then, if CTD follows this up with something more substantial.

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Sorry I missed this plot suggestion.
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And evolutionists encourage their young children to go out and have sex . . . fine, go ahead and draw your cartoon as large and nonsensical as you like.
I'll keep it in mind if the [color:"red"] Adventures [/color] continue.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson

"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson

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