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Exactly what part of your debate is true? The part about bible scholars understanding salvation? Get a life. An enormous amount of bible scholarship today tries to prove the bible erroneous or problematic. if you don't care for my response, hurt feeling and tears will not relieve your pain, which btw you earned. Just correcting ya there, sailor.

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I wasn't trying to say that all bible scholars understand salvation, when clearly they don't. I was saying that if a person claims to be a bible scholar but doesn't know the mechanics of salvation as laid out by Paul in Romans chapter 8, then it's obvious they really are not bible scholars. Remember...analogy.

A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke