Hi Linear,

I didn't think you were ignoring me. I don't expect people to be able to be on here answering each and every post and I hope they don't expect the same of me. I also have "some" life outside of this and being on here can take up my time and I dont always find it an enjoyable use of my time either. So I like to have much-needed breaks from this particular forum.

Ok, I have to respond here and ask that you re-read my statements Linear. You have accused me (again) of something I did not say regarding the chicken experiment. It's healthy to question what the science community tells us, because people are limited (no matter how intelligent they are), prone to bias, prone to assumptions and manipulation, prone to error and even prone to fraud. I don't care which community they belong to, science, medical or what. Sometimes it's healthy to request substance to back up claims and if that substance does not add up, or too much is missing, and you find more assumptions than actual proof...this can be a form of indoctrination/manipulation. It is not just a good use of our intelligence, but it is a good use of basic common sense.

Look, I have not personally viewed those studies you spoke of, I have not seen pictures to back up the fact they performed or even achieved this, nor have I heard of it, nor was I given even the source of it! And then you expect me to swallow it like a good little person and accept that the guys in white coats have it all nailed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/graduation.gif" alt="" />, yet it's ok for you guys to ask for proof from us? hmmmm. Yet...the burden of proof actually lies on the evolutionist. Their theory is being taught as fact in the science classroom all over the world using tax payers dollars in the process....and you don't think they have any obligation to provide substantial evidence?

Do I believe the people behind the study you spoke of? Not sure, probably they did, possibly they didn't. And really.....so what if they had? it doesn't prove dinosaur to bird evolution as I have stated for many reasons. Even a dumbie wouldn't fall for that as "proof".

I trust God, but I have a few issues trusting what we're "told" by the science community.....as much as I have issues trusting what we are told by the "medical community (drug companies). There have been hoaxes in the past or things we've been told that have been discovered as either a complete outright frauds, or an exaggeration and twisting of what was actually found or many assumptions passed off as fact and charts to show how "it happened". When I state something on here, people always cry GIVE ME EVIDENCE. Yet, if I ask for the same? suddenly the walls go up and it's "Are you calling these people liars"? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/reallymad.gif" alt="" /> "Do you think it's some kind of conspiracy?" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/reallymad.gif" alt="" />.

Linear, whatever quotes were given, however old they were, they were given alongside the evidence (pictures) and there was far more than just quotes, but information also, all backing eachother up. No matter how old, or how modern, there is little one can do about in-your- face pictures that do not show any signs of reptiles/dinosaurs evolving into birds and do not do so to this day. Fish and amphibians, reptiles/birds existed way back then, even around the sametime... many kinds/varieties as they do to this day. Some may have become extinct, some haven't. Yet we are told one thing came from another. If they dig up anything, a part of something, that too will be fitted into their theory, even without knowing exactly what it was, how it lived, whether it's another species that may have become extinct, rather than a transitional form between fish and amphibian. E.g. they managed to mould an entire theory (ape-man) around the tooth of an extinct pig. We know this now, everybody knows, and that is only one example and you expect me to swallow anything that comes from your side regardless? Yet it's ok for you to question us and cry "evidence please"

Why is it that people who question this theory or start mentioning ideas of design are put in a very difficult position, possibly losing their job and somehow that's acceptable (or even denied it's occured)....yet, you want me to think that the evolutionists are all unbias, honest guys who just want to get the truth out to us? And then you guys become almost outraged at anybody daring to question their pet theories or asking for substantial evidence to back up these outrageous claims....

Did you read the interview with the evolution biologist? The one televised? This is another very concerning insight also as to what may well be going on behind the scenes. Certainly this guy said that he claimed evolution is responsible for all these things, regardless of what he was finding, as he did not want to lose his job, his position and his money....A sobering thought to anybody entering the science field.