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It reminds of me the elite groups in Highschool. Anything to fit with the crowd, but does that mean the crowd is right? That's another story.
It is O.T. but if you get a chance, see Mean Girls w. Lindsey Lohan. The exact same dynamic shows up everywhere people struggle for power. Town council, PTA, Congress, amateur sports associations, corporate politics - everywhere! It's all the same childish stuff. The ones at the top hate each other, but band together to keep everyone else down.

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And escaping this by manipulating even your own theory to try and explain why we haven't seen that, is just back-peddling, side-stepping and hoping others will fall for it in the process.
Amen!

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The information is everywhere to be found. As an example, here <http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/evol.html> is what the fossil record shows for the evolution of humans. These species and sub-species were put in these places on the chart because the fossils and the rocks in which they were found have been dated at those ages. The same site <http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/disp.html> explains, for example, that "with more powerful geological dating methods based on fluctuations in the earth's magnetic field or electron spin resonance, the earliest Homo erectus fossils from China have been dated to 1.9 million years ago." If we found an australopithecus fossil unambiguously buried in a recent layer of rock, that would indeed be a find to shake the world. Yet consistently, these fossils are found sorted according to the order in the chart. You could find a similar chart for many different kinds of organisms.

Linda. This does not SHOW anything. It is just another evolution bias interpretation with a charts to match.
Actually, it shows a few things - take a another look:
"the similarly named and easily confused categories of humans and near human apes, in order of increasing inclusiveness, are:

• Hominini - modern humans and all previous human or australopithicine ancestors

• Homininae - humans and chimpanzees (Panini), our closest living biological kin (so close that some scientists have suggested their genus name should be changed from Pan to Homo).

• Hominidae - humans, chimpanzees and gorillas (Gorillinae)

• Hominoidae - humans, chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans (Pongidae)

• Hominoidea - humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and gibbons (Hylobatoidae).

Ardipithecus, the common primate ancestor to paranthropines, australopithicines and humans, went extinct about 4 million years ago. "

Who decided on these confusing names? Um-hmmm!

Then scroll down to the chart with all the ?-marks. It's just like
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except there's a lot more ?'s and they're only trying to get from monkey to man - not atoms to man. I almost begin to think LindaLou's a mole working for us!

But I've posted enough today.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/byebye.gif" alt="" />

Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

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