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The so-called "vestigial hind legs" are not useless at all, but appear to help/ strengthen the reproductive organs-the bones are different in males and females. Not understanding a function, should not quality as a "non functioning" vestigial organ. They are "copulary guides’ and in sperm whales act as an anchor for the muscles of the genitalia. To describe these bones, which actually carry out important functions, as ‘vestigial organs’ is nothing but Darwinistic prejudice.
"Vestigial" does not mean "useless". It is a descriptor used in identifying parts that no longer perform their original function. The bones that evolutionists claim were parts of legs in ancestors of whales are identified by their similarity to the leg and hip bones of land animals. Coupling that with the fossil lineage of the whales that shows the changes through generations, evolutionists categorize those bones as vestigial.

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Also, how do they know that these bones "were" hindlimbs in the first place? Again this is based on huge assumptions. These bones in comparison with the whale are very small. The body of a whale is immense and these bones attached to the pelvis serve functions that the evolutionist seems to be ignoring as having any other function other than being "leftovers", because they have already decided that whales were once land dwelling animals, therefore these bones must be the remnants of hindlimbs. How do they know this? If these bones were hind-limbs, then where are the front ones? Unless of course this apparent once land dwelling animals walked around on only hind legs ;-) Oh no that's right, the front legs evolved into.....flippers!!! (according to the evolutionist).

So you are saying that evolutionists looked at whales, then determined that they must have been land animals once, as just a guess? What did they do...flip a coin? I guess the coin didn't flip in favor of fish.
Anyway, according to your conjecture, after randomly choosing whales as former land animals, evolutionist paleontologists happened to find fossils with all the attributes of whales except they had small legs. Then in an earlier period in the fossil record, they just happened to find another fossil with all the attributes of the whale except a slightly smaller head and bigger legs than the previous fossil. They just happened to keep finding fossils that, as the age of the fossils was greater, the legs were bigger, the flippers were less like flippers, the hip bones were more like a hip....etc.
Strangely, fossils that look similar to modern fish but with a few changes, never show a change toward previously having legs. No matter how far back they look, paleontologists only find that animals with similarities to fish are only simpler fish.

I guess that coin flip was lucky for the evolutionists, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to find fossils that they could pretend are ancestors of a sea creature that they wanted to say was formerly a land creature.

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As for snakes, the so-called vestigial "hind limbs" ( little claws near the tail end). These are also used during mating. I think I have repeated this for the second time now. maybe the flippers on mammals were actually once wings. I mean why not? If legs can turn into flippers, why not wings too?
Because the whale predecessor fossils don't show wings, then flippers. However, you can look at penguin ancestry if you are interested in wings to flippers evolution.

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If they were legs, how is this evolution? What possible advantage could a land-dwelling animal have to lose its limbs? I thought evolution was a gaining of information, not a loss of information. Why are we not seeing this today by the way? Why are we not seeing any kind of land-dwelling animal evolving? Why is it always "well it happened in the past", the lonnnngggg distant past, the one where none of us were there to "conveniently NOT see it happen.
Evolution is not some kind of pathway to the stars. It is a change in organisms that may or may not meet a particular survival need. If the change meets a survival need, then the species evolves. If it does not meet survival needs then that species dies out...extinction.
Who says it is not happening now? Creatures have been changed in our lifetime. Dog breeds are evolution. Yes it is directed by man and forced to occur more rapidly than in nature. However, the breeding of dogs to make a cairn terrier that can go into gopher holes shows that animals have the capability to change and become better than others of its species at obtaining a food source. If man can change animal populations, why can't changes in the environment cause changes in the animal populations?



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To add to this, genetics can tell us how species are related to each other, and we can see that whales are more closely related to ungulates than they are to all other mammals, through genetic analysis.

Why do you assume that this must mean it evolved? Obviously they are different creatures and have different functions. Is it so illogical that same Creator could produce different types of creatures using many of the same biological parts and much of the same bio-chemical technology. Why would he do otherwise? once again, you are asking us to believe something you nor your superiors have never seen happen, just because it's excludes intelligent design. Name your bias, because this is exactly what this is about. It just depends which bias you want to be bias with. This isn't science Linda. Common design does not exclude any of these things. Are the boat, plane, and car related? No. They are similar because they were all designed for a similar purpose - transportation. And they all came from the mind of man - creations.
Common design does not account for the same changes caused by endogenous retroviruses in animals that are related to each other. Quick explanation:
1. Viruses multiply by taking over a cell in a host organism and inserting it's RNA into the DNA of the cell.
2. The cell then tries to divide by copying its own DNA, but that DNA has the virus RNA in it so that is copied too.
3. Instead of the cell dividing, the virus is copied and the cell dies.
4. When the virus inserts its RNA, it is placed in a random location on the cell's DNA. Because of the randomness, sometimes the replication of the virus does not happen and the DNA of that cell is simply changed. This is somewhat rare.
5. Sometimes the cell affected is a sperm or egg cell. This is also rare and it causes the copy of the virus RNA to remain in the progeny of that sperm or egg cell. This can be detected by looking at the DNA of an animal and seeing where the virus RNA is. The virus RNA left in the animal's DNA is called an endogenous retrovirus.
6. Since the location of the retrovirus on the DNA string is random, plus the infection of a reproductive cell (sperm or egg) is rare, it is unlikely that 2 unrelated species would have retrovirus RNA in the same place in their DNA.
7. However, the same retrovirus RNA has been found in the same location on the DNA strings of bovines (cows) and whales. Not only that, but multiple retrovirus RNA strings have been shown to match up between bovines and whales, less so between bats and whales, and even less so (but still some!) between whales and horses.
8. The retrovirus RNA commonality of this order is not shown between whales and fish, or whales and birds.

So what do you think caused this retrovirus commonality between whales, cows, bats and horses? Do you think God just put these RNA strings in the DNA for reasons of His own when he created these creatures (and all the extinct creatures we see in the fossil record) during creation week 6000 years ago?

Since God randomly put in those RNA strings, do you also think that when evolutionists did that coin flip to decide which sea creature they would say had land animal ancestors, they just happened to get lucky that whales had endogenous retrovirus RNA that matched these land creatures so closely?

Maybe God affected the coin flip so these guys wouldn't look so foolish when they presented their "Big Joke" to the world. But why would He do that?

Maybe it was just one lucky coin flip.


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke