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Simply because we choose to discuss issues with which you have difficulty admitting the truth of is not reason for your incessant trolling to attempt to change the subject. Now, if you don't mind, I am going to put this thread back on subject, and if you have any relevant input you are welcome to reply. If however your input is going to repeatedly consist of whether or not the theory of evolution is true or false or how many times Ted Haggard flagged a prostitute, please take it elsewhere.
I don't have difficulty admitting that some evolutionists, especially in the 19th and early 20th centuries used the idea of favored races (which, if you read Darwin, means favored members of a particular species) to foist their racist ideals upon the rest of the world. I will further agree that the X-club members probably used their influence within the scientific community to help the Theory of Evolution get accepted more rapidly. Ok, that's history that I can do nothing to change.

What is CTD's purpose for bringing it up in the first place? A history lesson? Examples of what should not be done?

In the first post CTD states:
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You may have heard that evolutionism was introduced, and it won the day on scientific merit. One by one, scientist after scientist became convinced.... blah blah baloney! Evolutionism had been plodding along for decades, convincing next to nobody who wasn't a borderline atheist. How'd they turn it around? It was politics. One by one, evolutionists were placed in all key positions - first in England, and later in other technologically advanced countries, as they continually praised Darwin for making it happen.
CTD basically says that the Theory of Evolution would not be accepted on its scientific merits and had to be forced on the scientific community through political influence. So, whether or not evolution is true has been part of this thread from the very first post.

You brought up the eugenics crowd for some reason which you have kept to yourself. You have only named eugenicists and showed they use the Theory of Evolution to support their cockeyed beliefs. Without any further explanation from you as to why you mentioned them, I can only assume it was to smear all evolutionists with their taint by association. If you have another reason for bringing them up besides mudslinging then I wouldn't mind hearing it. However, all your comments since bringing it up (...because we choose to discuss issues with which you have difficulty admitting the truth of... for example) point to it being a guilt by association smear campaign.

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If you cannot contribute to a serious discussion, whether you appreciate it or not, then politely bow out.

To make it perfectly clear to your mind Linda... this discussion IS NOT about whether evolution is true or false. This discussion is about the philosphosies which enable it to exist using the words, writings, and associations of it's most vocal adherents.

Oh...ok. Then please show us how the philosophies of eugenicists enabled the Theory of Evolution to exist. I would be glad to discuss that subject.


A faith that connot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets. -- Arthur C. Clarke