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#33469 03/24/08 04:10 AM
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Still have terrible Hayfever like symptoms which I've never had at this time of year, so been doing some research into Histamine. I'm sure some people have mentioned their levels being high. I was amazed to find this could cause all of these symptoms. If levels are low, other symptoms can occur. Has anyone had their levels checked and if so where? Thanks Tracy xx <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sadblownose.gif" alt="" />

Histadelia (Histamine High)
Histadelia, more common in males, is characterized by elevated
blood levels of histamine. It is estimated that 15-20% of
schizophrenics are probably histadelic. The treatment of
histadelia requires great patience because six to ten weeks
are often needed before the beginning of significant
improvement. The treatment usually takes twelve months to
complete. To find out more about this see Mental Illness: The
Nutrition Connection, a book by Carl Pfeiffer. The prognosis
is good if the histadelic patient cooperates with treatment
and works to give up detrimental addictions.

*** Signs, symptoms & indicators of Histadelia
(Histamine High):

* Allergy

* Excess mucous: Histamine can cause additional mucus
production.

* Good tolerance of cold

* Poor tolerance of heat

* Unexplained nausea

* Poor pain tolerance

* Excess/abundant saliva in mouth

* Hyperactivity: Histamine speeds up metabolism producing a
tendency towards hyperactivity.

* Frequent colds/flus

* Phobias

* Being highly motivated: Those with elevated histamine
(histadelics) tend to work compulsively.

* A hard-driving personality: Histadelics tend to work
compulsively.

* Good creativity/imagination: Histadelics are often
highly creative.

* Strong sexual desire

* Joint pain/swelling/stiffness

* Excess perspiration

* Warm skin

*** Conditions that suggest Histadelia (Histamine High):

* Allergy: Allergic Rhinitis / Hay Fever

* Depression: Histadelics are often chronically and
suicidally depressed.

* Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD): Histadelics are often
prone to obsessions, compulsions, and addictions.

* Addictions / Addictive Tendencies: Nutritional treatment
for drug and alcohol users will depend on the results of a
test for blood histamine levels. In one series of such
analysis, all users proved to have high histamine levels,
leading the scientist to conclude that this abnormality -
with its impact on brain function - is a major force in
creating addiction. [Nutrition Guide for the Prevention
and Cure of Common Ailments and Diseases, Carlton
Fredericks, PhD. p.58]

* Headaches

* Insomnia: The overarousal seen in histadelia may
contribute to insomnia.

* Muscle Pains (Myalgia)

* History of unexplained nausea

* Slender fingers / toes: Histadelics often have long
fingers and toes.

*** Recommendations for Histadelia (Histamine High):

* Methionine: Methionine supplements lower blood levels of
histamine by increasing histamine breakdown.

* Calcium

* Copper: Copper levels may be low to normal in patients
with histadelia. Copper is part of the enzyme histaminase,
which is involved in the metabolism of histamine.

* Magnesium

* Manganese

* Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)

* Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)

* Vegetarian/Vegan Diet Nutritionists recommend a low-protein,
high
complex carbohydrate diet. Histidine, which is more common
in animal
proteins, should be avoided as it can be converted into
histamine.

*** Not recommended

* Vitamin Folic Acid: Histadelics should avoid supplemental
folic acid as it can produce excess histamine. In fact,
anti-folate drugs may be required. Folic acid increases
depression in histadelic patients and a trial of folic
acid could be used to distinguish between histapenics and
histadelics. In extreme cases, folic acid in food or in
multivitamins is enough to produce the adverse effects.
The following article is also interesting:
http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/histamine-zinc-and-copper/

#33470 03/25/08 10:18 AM
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I have mild histadelia. I went in to talk with a gastro about a colonoscopy and he ran several basic tests. I asked him to tack that one on, and he did. He said he wouldn't know what to do with the results, but ordered it anyway. Mine was slightly elevated, but I suspected as much. I have OCD and SAMe makes me feel better. Haven't taken that in a while though. Also not sure how all that ties into Hg poisoning. SAMe is a methyl donor, so....... is it a chelator? Not quite sure how high histamine works into Hg poisoning. Maybe someone else has some info on this. I have noticed that avoiding high histamine foods makes me feel some better with the exception of yogurt; I'm sometimes OK with it.

Shonda


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