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Joined: Mar 2008
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I'm just not sure why these boxes have to enter into it. If the ToE explains the observable facts better than any other model, then for me there isn't a whole lot more to be said until another model is presented. Rather than flit from superficial discussion to superficial discussion, I prefer to discuss this issue. Why are you so keen to derail the thread? So if you're happy with what you put in your boxes, would you like to proceed to explain why you (presumably) think that the ToE does not explain what you put in box 1, or why the things in boxes 2 and 3 do not validate it? I'm not satisfied that I've properly classified all the evidence yet. I think I still need to put [color:"green"] Sex-based Selection [/color] in box 1. I didn't anticipate that I'd be unable to edit the OP, so I'll probably be reposting the updated boxes after a while. There may be other things I've overlooked. It's hard to remember everything. And I think we should allow LinearAQ some time to get around to the other types of evidence as well before we conclude the discussion. I note that nobody's submitting candidates for box two. Could be A.) they don't understand the boxes. B.) they don't want to abandon circular reasoning. C.) there's nothing more to include in that box. D.) all of the above.
Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
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