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#32944 03/12/08 07:05 PM
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I went to my new doctor today, I was very impressed by him!!
He said that I needed to take 600mg of lipoic acid and 6 capsules of alfalfa or spirilina or 1 tablespoon of chlorophyll before going to bed. He said add the chlorophyll after my removal. He also said to only have one filling done at a time and wait 6 months before the next removal. I asked him about the DMSA and he said that it was poison and very bad for the liver!! I've read alot about the dmsa and the ala on here lately, it appears that there is a dispute about it. I want to do the best thing for myself like everyone else on here. It's hard when you've read soo much and you still make mistakes that hurt you in the long run. I don't like learning from my mistakes when it comes to mercury. I think the real issue is that everyone detoxes differently, it's hard to tell someone to use your protocol when it might be too much or not enough!!
I would like to hear some insight on what you think of the protocol that my doctor gave me.
He told me to stick my tongue out, then told me that the sides of my tongue were smooth. This means that I'm low in Vit B. It was a nice change to visit a doctor that was on the same level as I<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Treva
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Hi Treva,
Glad that you found a doctor you are happy with! Just one note with the chlorophyll - it can contain copper. This may not be a problem for you but I took chlorohpyll for a few months and my copper levels went from low to high (on a hair test). High copper can cause problems esp if mecury toxic so just be aware of this. Check the labels, I'm not sure if all chlorophyll has copper? I found one that didn't mention copper on the label but I'm still not taking any chlorophyll while copper levels are high.

Cheers,
Cara

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Cara,
thank's for the heads up on the chlorophyll!! Where did you purchase it? I buy everything from a local healthfood store, I've become really good friends with the owner. Thats a big surprise..lol It felt good leaving my doctors today with a list of things that I needed from the health food store. I was use to leaving with a prescription, that I ended up throwing away.
I keep reading on here that you need to do dmsa before ala. It's all soo confusing!! When I left my doctor I felt good about what he had in store for me.....now I'm scared to find out!!
I guess theirs no simple answer when It comes to mercury.


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Treva, this is probably the worst and single most riskiest thing you could do to yourself and that's taking alpha lipoc acid whilst you've still got amalgams and/or are still mercury toxic. Andy Cutler has warned about this and those that have used it inappropriately, have sometimes wound up irreversibly worse! I mean seriously so.

ALA is not just a powerful antioxidant and great for the liver and increase glutathione, but it also happens to be a powerful mercury chelating agent and can pass across the blood brain barrier. The problem with that is, if you still have amalgams and/or are still burdened with high body/blood mercury, it will take that mercury with it and deposit much more INTO your brain and other more sensitive areas and possibly make you very ill at best.

Look I'm giving you the worst case senario, because I would hate to see you hurt yourself over something like this, just because a doctor has the best of intentions, does not mean they all understand the nature of mercury and how to chelate it. There are some that do and others that don't. Many people on these forums are here because they've been screwed up badly by doctors!

If you handle chlorophyll? That might be ok. I would steer CLEAR of ALA, until after you have all amalgams removed and have first detoxed your body areas of mercury, and/or waited 3-4 months or more post amalgam removal before adding ALA to the programme.

If you do use it? According to Cutler, who has studied this for years and deals with many people around the world on a daily basis, it should be used in SMALL doses and taken frequently (every 3 hours around the clock for a few days straight and then a break of the same amount of time and repeat the same cycle until chelated of mercury).

If the ALA is used in a large intermittent/infrequent dose, then the movement of mercury will be the same and again can wind up in worse areas, brain included and mess you up really good. I knew a person online, who was doing ok on his doctor's regime of chelation and wound up being put on high dose ALA infrequently and ended up in a psychiatric unit. Andy had to work with him to try and get him right. I never heard from him again and never knew what happened. I assumed the worst, but I hope not! The guy was a mess after the ALA.

It is up to you what you wish to do, but I feel better to warn you of this first. ALA is not to be trifled with when you're mercury toxic. Many people may assume it's just a powerful liver antixodant that as a nice side effect, happens to detox mercury......it's much more than that.

Please be careful. The other stuff sounds much safer. you may still get some detox symptoms, but at least they don't pose the danger of ALA chelation at this point. Again it's up to you if you decide to do this anyway, but I do not feel that it is worth the slightest risk of irreversble damage. This was mentioned on here quite sometime ago about what was stated, and I wished I had saved the actual post. It was very sobering!

take care.

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Hi Treva,
When I found out that my copper levels were high I checked all my supplements. Chlorophyll was the only one that mentioned copper. I had a couple of different brands, one did not mention copper but I just decided to throw the whole lot out anyway. Unfotunately I don't remember the brand and it probably wouldn't be much use to you anyway since I am in Australia! It may not be that the copper is added, it may just be a part of the make up of all Chlorophyll?? I'm sure it's fine for 'healthy' people or people that are able to secrete Copper, but for some reason by body seems to hang on to it.

Cheers,
Cara

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treva, please don't do this.... This is the worst thing you can do for your health. The ALA taken once a day will concentrate mercury in your brain... very bad

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Hi Treva.

You asked what people think of the protocol the doctor gave you? Personally I think it’s a nightmare. I would personally never see that doctor again. He obviously doesn’t know enough about mercury. 600mg lipoic acid(ALA) has the potential to seriously screw you up. And when I say seriously I mean SERIOUSLY screw you up. That protocol is way way way too risky. Doing that when you are amalgam free is seriously risky but doing it with amalgams still in place is a recipe for disaster and just downright crazy. That kind of ultra high dose, with amalgams still in your mouth, taken once per day will hurt you SO much. i would expect that to pull gigantic amounts of mercury from your body and brain and your amalgams, some will be excreted and some will be redistributed and will resettle in various new places in your body. Because ALA crosses the blood-brain-barrier you will get mercury settling on your brain, and that is the last place you want mercury because that’s when it causes the most nightmarish of problems. At such high doses you will have massive redistribution. Massive!

The best thing you can do to never see that doctor again and buy “Amalgam illness” by Andrew Cutler. Read it then thank your lucky stars that you asked here about this mental protocol from that doctor.

I would guess that if you used that protocol it would put your health back at least 6 months, but prolly upto 1 year.

I don’t know anything about Chlorophyll but I know copper is bad and mercury people need to avoid copper.

I echo BG123 words [color:"red"] “treva, please don't do this.... This is the worst thing you can do for your health. The ALA taken once a day will concentrate mercury in your brain... very bad”[/color]

Don't do it.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
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Everyone, thank's for your response!! I had a bad feeling about the ala when he told me to get it. He told me to use it after removal. I asked him if it crossed the blood brain barrier? He answered yes....so he knows that it pulls mercury from the brain. Oh well, you see what happens when you go outside this forum. I know that I can trust people that have had the same experience as I with mercury.
Cara I looked at the ingredients in chlorophyl and you were right about copper being in it. I'm thankful that we have this place to go to for answers.
Sunshine I'm ordering the Amalgam Illness book, thank's for your info.

My doctor recomended spirulina over barley green...what do you think is the better one?
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Treva
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When you read Amalgam Illness, always remember what that doc wanted you to do…..by asking here and ignoring your doc you just saved yourself a lot of needless pain and suffering. Congratulations and good luck.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

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