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#32513 02/26/08 02:48 PM
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Which one do you take and how much a day? I am using the Carlson Moly B which has 500 mcg per tablet. I take one a day. It is vegetarian. It is only around 6 cents each tablet. Other brands I have seen are 5-9 cents each, but only have 150-250 mcg of Molybdenum.

This web page claims that Molybdenum might help prevent cavities, and is helpful for mouth and gum disorders.

http://www.anyvitamins.com/molybdenum-info.htm

What is a safe amount of Molybdenum to take each day? That website claims that over 15 mh a day might be a problem. That sounds like a huge amount though. I don't think I would want to take over 1 mg a day. Any thoughts about this?

#32514 02/26/08 03:15 PM
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I haven't been able to find anything else than Solgar's 150 mcg. I take 300 mcg per day now. Btw, if you want to streamline your ammonia detox (being interested in moly would point perhaps into this direction), add to that L-ornithine and L-glutamine. I have these both, and L-glutamine helps also with gut issues.

#32515 02/26/08 03:35 PM
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The Vitamin Shoppe website has the Carlson Molybdenum.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=molybdenum&intsource=main

#32516 02/26/08 03:51 PM
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Which one do you take and how much a day? I am using the Carlson Moly B which has 500 mcg per tablet. I take one a day. It is vegetarian. It is only around 6 cents each tablet. Other brands I have seen are 5-9 cents each, but only have 150-250 mcg of Molybdenum.

This web page claims that Molybdenum might help prevent cavities, and is helpful for mouth and gum disorders.

http://www.anyvitamins.com/molybdenum-info.htm

What is a safe amount of Molybdenum to take each day? That website claims that over 15 mh a day might be a problem. That sounds like a huge amount though. I don't think I would want to take over 1 mg a day. Any thoughts about this?

Does it help you?

#32517 02/26/08 03:57 PM
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"Does it help you? "

Yes! I think it may be helping with both my gum irritation and the candida die off symptoms. I am wondering if I should take two tablets a day for one mg total.

#32518 02/26/08 04:07 PM
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I take “Molybdenum picolinate” made by Thorne Research. Each cap is 1000ug. I take one cap per day. This quantity and type (i.e. picolinate) is what Cutler recommends. I have no idea what picolinate means.


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#32519 02/26/08 04:30 PM
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interesting. I never heard of that brand before. I don't know the relative merits of picolinate vs glycinate. This website lists the Thorne Research 1 mg Molybdenum for $6.45 for 60, so it is close in price per mg to the Carlson. they suggest taking 1 or 2 of the Thorne capsules 3 times a day! three to six mg of Molybdenum a day sounds like a huge amount.

http://www.costlessvitamin.com/catalog/wobenzym-pca-rx-medicardium_-1442_Thorne-Research.htm

I found this other website that sells the Carlson Molybdenum for less than The Vitamin Shoppe. I never heard of this company before.

http://www.luckyvitamin.com/088395056437.html

I guess I will increase my Molybdenum supplementation to 1 mg a day.

#32520 02/26/08 05:09 PM
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I take “Molybdenum picolinate” made by Thorne Research. Each cap is 1000ug. I take one cap per day. This quantity and type (i.e. picolinate) is what Cutler recommends. I have no idea what picolinate means.

I believe picolinate is an amino acid that means the molybdenum is bound to the picolinate and the supplement is absorbed as an amino acid not as a metal ion. It is said that this increases absorption.

I heard a few good things about mega-dose molybdenum. It would be nice if you could post your experience (good or bad) here.

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Yea, moly is toxic, if taken in too large amounts. 1 mg per day is the max I would take. I noticed little benefits in going beyond 600 mcg per day, but I suppose this can vary a bit too.

But do observe that there is no magic supplement that only helps if taken in megadoses. At least consider taking other nitrogen helpers along with moly.

Last edited by pgm; 02/26/08 05:31 PM.
#32522 02/26/08 08:36 PM
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I bought the Solgar molybdenum a while back before I found the Carlson. The Solgar molybdenum is very expensive though at around 60 cents a gram, which is around five or 6 times the price per gram of the Carlson or the Thorne Research.

#32523 02/27/08 06:51 AM
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I believe picolinate is an amino acid that means the molybdenum is bound to the picolinate and the supplement is absorbed as an amino acid not as a metal ion. It is said that this increases absorption.

I heard a few good things about mega-dose molybdenum. It would be nice if you could post your experience (good or bad) here.

Lovely, thanks for that.

Well, I don’t notice anything bad when I take molybdendum. I don’t know if I feel better either. Problem is I take so many supplements it hard to tell which does what. I did have it muscle tested 3 months ago and my body reacted very positively to it, so I will continue taking it.

Collectively, including everything I do and take…. I continue to heal, I continue to get better….which supplement does what….i don’t know specifically anymore….but I will continue taking all the supplements until I am properly healthy again. Chelation is hard on my body and I will support it as much as I can during this time of rebuilding.
My current supplementation
(Example1-2-1 = 1 at breakfast, 2 at lunch, 1 at dinner)
(Figure after name = total quantity taken per day, figure in brackets is Cutler dose recommendation)
6-0-0 ACE – 300mg in the morning
3-0-0 Vit B5 – 1500mg
1-1-1 Niacinamide –1500mg per day
1 cup liquorice tea in the morning.
1.5-2 tsp himalayan cyrstal salt per day
2-2-1 Kelp – which provides iodine 630ug – 1060 ug per day

1-0-0 Vit D3 – 1000 IU
1-1-0 COQ10 - 300mg (100-400 mg general supplement from AI)
1-0-0 Boron – 2mg (3mg)
1-0-0 Molybdenum – 1,000 mcg (1,000 mcg)
1-0-0 Vit B12 – 100ug (1-12mg)
2-2-2 Vit C – 6 grams (4-12 grams per day. Buffered form is better.)
2 pinch at each meal – Epsom salt (this is instead of magnesium citrate)
1-1-1 Betaine & pepsin 960mg + 20 mg
1-1-1 Vit E 900mg (1000iu)
1-1-1 GTF chromium 180 ug
1-0-0 Multi Vit B large Dosage
2-1-1 Taurin 2000mg (2000mg)
1-1-1 Milk thistle.
1-1-1 Zinc – 45mg per day
1-0-0 Vit D 1,000 iu (1,000iu)
DMSA – 6mg every 3 hours for 3 days on round, even waking at night. 4 days off
Essiac tea, borage tea, damiana tea - daily
2-2-2 Inbetween herbs: cloves, thyme, cinnamon, sage, ginger

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I would advise against using vit D, because it is immunosuppressive. I have heard some people mention that it helped much with their fibropains, and this points to its immunosuppressivity. It's similar to HC and mercury, giving you a false feeling that everything is ok. Lowering Vit D is specifically a part of the MP (Marshall protocol), whose aim is to mobilize the immune system to kill off the pathogens.

It would only be useful to take it if you want to slow down your recovery, and get some relief of the pains, which isn't a bad idea at least in the beginning.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080125223302.htm

There are more research papers around demonstrating that vit D is harmful.

#32525 02/27/08 10:00 AM
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Hey thanks PGM, I wasn’t aware.

My understanding is Vit D comes from the sun. I always feel better when I’m in the sun, be it 5 minutes or 7 days. I work underground with no natural sunlight. Supplementing Vit D was noticeable when I first started it and I am no longer sensitive to bright sunlight anymore either now.

Think I will drop that supplement and see what happens.

Cheers


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