If it was all pathgoen related, I would not have taken years to excrete metals in the process. Antifungals and diet helped to a point, but did nothing to address the underlying storage of metals which I needed to get out and chelation was the only real way to achieve this. If it was just pathogens, then antifungals and diet would have been it for me, because I wouldn't have spent a load of money on DMSA to grab the metals and get them out if the antifungals were doing the job.

You can explain it all away if you wish as pathogens, but you do not speak for me or my past experiences. How do you know there is no evidence that mercury doesn't cause detox reactions? Have you read people's experiences on here where testing has been done before/ after chelation? We've had one just recently.

Good grief, it's over the internet what can happen during mercury healing crisis, it's in mercury amalgam books. Mercury causes horrific detox reactions and I went through hell on earth as that stuff was coming out of me.

The ADA also claim that there is no evidence mercury causes any problems at all....they too would deny mercury causes detox reactions, because in saying that, it would be admitting that mercury causes toxicity in the first place.

in order for the body to become toxic with mercury in the first place, which is often why pathogens flourish, there needs to be an opposite when one takes actions against the mercury, which is detox. Detox anything and it usually causes a worsening of symptoms. How can mercury be any different? It's even more lethal than just about any other toxin/metal. So it doesn't hurt whilst it goes in...and according to you, no evidence that it hurts on the way out? This to me makes no sense.

If you deny detox reactions? You might as well deny the toxicity of mercury whilst you're at it. Because mercury isn't water. Mercury is not a neutral substance. The stuff hurts and it hurts like crazy going in, it hurts like crazy coming out for many people.

Die off aint fun either, but it sure the heck isn't the only thing going on with people treating amalgam toxicity.

Not everybody has lyme Pgm and ALA might be effective against pathogens, but that does not explain everything or how people with amalgam poisoning, may not have recovered from antifungal aid, but rather from chelating instead. We see a few of those on the forums. Most of them by the way have been treating pathogens and finding "some" relief, but mercury elimination appears to be the main focus and the way some are reclaiming their health/lives.

to explain away detox or reactions from chelation as pathogen related and not much more, is denying almost completely the role mercury is playing or the fact that specific chelating agents that target mercury and/or lead are doing anything but treating pathogens. Sorry but this is misleading. Chelating agents are not direct antifungal agents, but metal chelating agents. They are what they are. If pathogen related conditions are improved at the sametime, great, but that is not what these agents are specifically targeted at.

Someone could also simply treat their pathogens in other ways without paying out a lot of money for chelating agents, when in reality they don't chelate anything, they just treat pathogens..?

Sorry, no offense, but there is no way I could put everybody's symptoms on here, detox or otherwise all down to pathogens. I know some may have more pathogen related problems than mercury, but others may have more mercury. Who are we to deny that because our experience may have been otherwise?

I feel both pathogens and mercury are capable of causing symptoms in both toxicity and symptoms during elimination/mobilisation.