There's a possibility that I've been toxic since I was a baby! The more research I do, the more I keep encountering scary coincidences. Considering I've never felt 'right' for most of my life, this is damn scary.

Hyper Flexible Joints: Since I was a baby I've always been hyper flexible and not a week would go past as a child and teen without some agony in my legs due to it. I read recently some link between hyper mobility of the joints and chronic fatigue.

Extra Salivation: Since I was a baby I've always salivated more than normal. Dental nurse mentioned my "watery mouth" on a number of occasions. I've just gotten used to it.

Vaccine reaction: Bad reaction to one of my first vaccinations as a baby. Became ill for quite a long time apparently.

Mix that in with my mild chronic fatigue symptoms and brain fog from throughout my teens and twenties (as far as I know) and my recent development of strong food sensitivities (that was related to chronic gastritis, and back pain and muscle spasms) and, well...

And I know that a lot of people don't believe in "psychic mumbo jumbo," but stuff it: I've always been able to 'sense energy' throughout my body. There was stuff I always called the black sludge which was a thick, unbelievably 'heavy', deep black energy that flowed like you would imagine thick black sludge would. No matter how often I would imagine it clearing from my body (which would be a mentally taxing task) it would always build back up again over time. This darkness existed more heavily along the spine and in the brain, with the brain being the most weighed down from the dark energy which permeated all the way through it. It would not let go without a fight. However once cleaned up I would feel a little lighter, less stress, and little less foggy. I still would not be right, but more relaxed. But slowly it always returns.

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Hello Red

Sorry to hear your story. I have been poisoned since a baby but for different reasons to you (I think, you do not sound as old as me) In the 40's and 50's a lot of babies were given 'teething powders' if they were fractious, with 50% mercury, as the theory was that the problem was parasites and mercury would kill them. They killed 25% of the babies instead. I was seriously ill in hospital for 6 weeks until my mother removed me as they left me beside an open window in the middle of winter, to cool my hot red extremities no doubt. I cannot remember feeling anything but sick and I know my parents had a lot of problems with my behaviour, screaming fits etc. The I played with the stuff when I got to about 8.

I believe that my four children have been affected by mercury passing over the the placental barrier. Maybe you have been poisoned in the womb. They exhibited certain problems in childhood which I now recognise as mercury poisoning including not being able to get on with peers, learning difficulties, and irritability


Yours could have been a spermicide as they used to have mercury in. There is a site for support with Pink's Disease which is what mercury poisoning was called in babies.

The psychic effects could be due to another reason, or maybe the poisoning. I always felt like something came over me, in which I was sort of semi-conscious of what was going on, and I had a problem with temper. I dissociated a lot.

I too have/had the joint thing, I could always touch my toes with ease. Maybe the saliva thing. I did not get vaccination thank goodness but was seriously ill with whooping cough.

Welcome!

hyper-flexible joints can be a sign of pre-natal mercury exposure. Does your mother have any symptoms of mercury poisoning?

I been heavily colour blind my whole life. First round of mercury detox with DMSA….my vision got better and I started seeing more colours. So yeah…..me too….i think I have been poisoned since birth. My granddad was a dentist.

That was the other thing - my mother has a mouth full of amalgam, and there is a good chance she had work done while she was pregnant with me - the rule back then was "fix your teeth so you can be your best for your baby."

Although I've got pretty good eyesight, I've always felt like I'm not quite processing, or registering what I'm seeing properly. Sound, on the other hand, is not so bad.

It’s most amazing seeing colours for the first time in my life. Makes life worth living again, especially since I had such a bad year last year. A nice added bonus to the difficulties of chelating.

Bit more yellow came back this week. Happy dayz!

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Since a was a kid I have been colour blind.

There are three types of colour blindness

Red/green
Green/brown
Blue/yellow

I am all three.

Here is the post 2 days after my first round of DMSA. 12.5mg every 4 hours for 3 days even waking at night……

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Two days after completion of my first round of DMSA.

I have had an amazing & wonderful morning today. I am less colorblind than I was! This is totally astonishing. Walking to work I kept noticing how bright everything seemed to be, yet it was a cloudy London morning. I noticed how bright and clear the street signs where, specifically the blues. Blues have been sparkling at me all day. Reds and greens are more distinct too. Reading my book on the train was impossible because I just kept looking out the window at all those new colors. Some pictures seem to have more "depth", pictures have been leaping out at me all morning, I keep noticing bright colors across the room, shining at me.

AI does talk about this, he makes a passing reference to colors being brighter and also depth perception. (I don't have my book with me, but I will look it up. It might be in hair test book?) I always wondered if this could happen to me. Makes me think my mercury issue goes back, way back.

I am very colorblind and always have been. I have red/green, green/brown and blue/yellow. The reason I know I am VERY color-blind is because I got myself some special glasses that correct color-blindness. Same principle as dyslexia glasses. Different color lenses somehow correct the vision. I have one pink and one green lense. Called "chromagen lenses".
When I put on the glasses lots of missing colors come back, and also my depth perception get significantly better. Obviously its difficult to know HOW colorblind I am because that's the way I have always been and have always seen. But putting the glasses on made me realise just how drastically colorblind I am. I am very very color blind. Was quiet depressing really, realising just how much I had missed in life, anyway. I also realised how much depth perception I have missing too. The difference was like watching black and white TV and a color TV….a significant difference.The glasses gave me back lots and lots of colors.

The change that has just occurred after this first round of DMSA is not that much, but enough for me to notice straight away that something had changed. As a wild guess, I'd say my colors are approx 15pct better, and some depth perception is back, but it is difficult to gauge.

I always thought that my color blindness was a genetic thing, passed down from my grandfather. He was black and white only colorblind. And guess what he did for a living…………yup……he was a dentist. LOL what a crazy world we live in!

And that's what has come back this morning, colors…..most astonishing indeed. Made my day and that's for sure.

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My major problems started after getting amalgam as a child, but I do believe I had some poisoning as a baby. My mother, who is ill with what I believe to be mercury poisoning, was given an amalgam when pregnant with me which I think would have crossed the placenta. I was born premature and had no hair for a long time. Added to this my father smoked and we lived only feet away from a main road while I was a toddler then next to a factory. My mental health was pretty good as a child, though. Whether these years contributed to the acute OCD I got after amalgams at 10 years of age I don't know, but definitely there was a "before amalgam" and "after amalgam" divide in my childhood. I was normal and happy before amalgam, but afterwards very ill with OCD and suicidal.

I don't know if my mother had amalgam, when she was pregnant with me. She may not remember, either. I remember when I was rather small, having a filling or two. I don't recall if they were in baby teeth or not, I don't recall. I am sure maybe some small issues started for me then. Other than tummy aches from time to time, I was pretty healthy, until I got in my teens. I don't know if I had any dental work then, but I probably did. When I was 17 yrs old, I got in a terrible car accident. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ambulance.gif" alt="" /> I was the passenger. My face went through the dash of the car, and the top of my head made a circle in the windshield, I was then thrown out of the car. They said being thrown out (the car door came unlatched) saved my life. If I had been seat-belted in, I would've been stuck in the car when it was hit by an oncoming van. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stretcher.gif" alt="" /> Needless to say, I had some plastic surgery on my face and I had a tooth in front on the bottom that the whole top half of it got broke off. It was repaired with a crown, porcelain in the front and solid metal in the back (I am SURE this is full of mercury). I think that's when my real problems began. I was never quite the same again. My two front bottom teeth are still shattered with hairline cracks all the way through them.

At 18 yrs old, I got pregnant with my oldest daughter. I had a traumatic pregnancy, because they doctor kept saying I had gestational diabetes, but my blood sugar was never consistantly high (and I'm sure this has something to do with mercury). Directly after she was born, I started having TERRIBLE chest pains. I thought I was dying. I had them once every few days, then once a day and then many times a day. It was the worst pain I had ever felt. I saw a Dr, and they were afraid I had a blood clot that went to my lungs. My test came back normal. They tested me for a whole host of things, but all tests came back ok. I gave up on dr's all together, and self-medicated with Nyquil to knock myself out so I wouldn't have to endure the pain. I vomited several times a day and it destroyed the enamel on my teeth.

After 9 months of "dying" (literally crawling on the floor and saying the Lord's prayer, in hopes the pain would lessen), I was in the emergency room 2 nights in a row, where they had to give me a shot for the pain. They FINALLY found that I had gallstones. My gallbladder was so diseased and destroyed that they said I had to get it out ASAP, or it would kill me within a month. Within a week or so I went in for surgery, and got it removed. They said I would be like "brand new", and I never was. The following year, before I had my 21st birthday, I was still on government dental coverage (medicaid), and many of my teeth had gotten cavities from the stomach acid. I put my trust in the dentist, and he repaired (destroyed) my whole mouth in a period of two weeks. I had approximately 17 amalgams placed in the time period. Many of my back teeth have so many placements, they are nearly ENTIRELY metal. Now that I look back, I don't remember my back teeth being THAT bad. They needed repair, no doubt, but not the whole thing. I put faith in the fact, though, that I was doing something to improve my health and appearance, and after the health problems and a divorce at a young age, I could start anew.

The last of my dental work was done on the day before my birthday, and as of my birthday I was out of coverage and had no money when it hit me. I took a terrible turn for the worse. I got DEATHLY sick. I couldn't eat, I couldn't drink, I couldn't breathe. My WHOLE mouth was swollen. I could barely speak. My tongue was swollen, and I was in unbelievable pain. It was all I could do, to take something and go back to bed. I took 8 tylenol, just to have the pain subside long enough to eat a small meal to keep me alive, and then the pain would come back. I finally called the dentist (crook) who knew my coverage had run out, and had nothing to say to me. He told me if I was in pain to take a Tylenol, and I told him I'd taken 100 within a week. He was not helpful at all, and even seemed hateful, so I suffered a couple more days with no relief, and called another dentist. He wanted cash up front, which I had none of. I was divorced, poor and a single mom. I lied and told them I would pay them. I was seen by the dentist, who was apalled at my mouth. He said I had a terrible INFECTION, and it seemed I was ALLERGIC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/reallymad.gif" alt="" /> to my metal fillings. He told me he would give me a really strong antibiotic and some pain pills, and if the antibiotic didn't clear it up, ALL my fillings would have to be taken back out and "medicated" fillings put in...whatever the hell that meant. I have never heard of those before, and never heard anything about them since. The antibiotic finally cleared me up, but I got strep throat and a yeast infection just shortly thereafter. Sigh.
I also was VERY prone to always getting strep throat throughout my teen years and early adulthood, and never understood why. Now that I look back, it all makes sense.

I am 100% sure now, more than ever, that he KNEW what he was doing. He filled teeth that didn't need filled, and OVER filled teeth that did. He milked the STATE GOVERNMENT for every penny he could, and he knew he could get away with it. He had no intention of helping me, when I was at my worst. His money was already made. It doesn't help that his children (2 sons and a daughter) were the most prominant and well known LAWYERS in the CITY!! He probably knew all the loopholes. I would LOVE to go back and SUE him now. I would love to exhume all of my dental records and see what my x-rays REALLY looked like, before he did all this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/skullbones.gif" alt="" /> He is an old man now, and from my searches on the internet, he is still alive, but no longer practicing. I don't think anyone took over his practice, but I'm not sure. I haven't been up that way in awhile to check, but I don't think it's in business. It's been 16 years, and I don't know how or where to find my records. I would THINK they would have to be kept somewhere, seeing that they use them for identifying bodies and such.
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Mommy24, thanks for sharing that. I'm just appaulled at the suffering you've endured. I wonder at times how people manage to stay alive or keep going. This makes me angry and sick at the sametime. What is wrong with those people????? Why do I hear so many things about dentists and awful outcomes???

You start to mistrust all of them, or feel that most of them are out for what they can get. Wow, very very revealing when I read stories like yours. No wonder people hate them so much. I know some who won't go near them at all, they're too scared.

You have been put through unadulterated hell. Sadly I don't know if it's so easy to sue these people. Not only do they have a lot more money than we do, but more sway it seems too. But if you ever can? I'd go for it. The more people start standing up and speaking out? The more these people will start to become more fearful of doing the dirty on their patients. I don't speak of all dentists, I know there are some wonderful ones out there, but it's hard to know who to trust.

Certainly, porcelain with a metal base is a bad move when you have amalgams at the sametime. This is what happened with me when I got braces. I wasn't so hot with amalgam, but the braces were the clincher and that's what tipped me into a state of chronic sickness. It just took the extra metal and the way these differing metals react with eachother in the mouth (battery effect/galvanic response) and that did it.

Though braces were later removed, I still never recovered. Some things improved somewhat at that stage, but nothing was ever the same. I had to make changes to my diet and lifestyle in order to gain any relief and improvements in health. It did work then and obviously I was on my way to recovering after detoxing the mercury (after all amalgams were removed). But that was also hellish and took sometime.

I had dentists "misplace" my files/records and then claim they were lost or vanished, when I had asked to find out what they had put in my mouth (e.g. type of composites etc). I had a dentist replace some of my amalgams and her asisstant didn't use the suction and I swallowed it all. I was deathly sick after that, but ignored pretty much. I had to find my own way, because they weren't about to help, nor could they.

So yeah, they don't like it when you start questioning them about whatever job they've done (or not done properly). They just want you gone and out of their hair, so they can move onto the next patients.

So you wind up seeking help and becoming desperate.

I really hope that you will find the help you need. A good reputable biologic dentist who will give you a full examination and start fixing the botch up jobs you've had and get these poisons out of your mouth. But it all costs! But if only you could do this bit by bit.

I found that diet and supplements did indeed aid me, because without either, I deteriorate even further. If that's possible. I have to treat candida yeast, because it overgrows in any toxic situation and makes things even worse.

anyway, I just wish that things will start looking up. This is just disgusting to read to hear what some people are put through. Man's inhumanity to man (or indifference and greed). No wonder people become so cynical and distrustful.

Anyway again thanks so much for sharing. I hope you don't give up. Sometimes it's easy to feel like it.

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