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#31550 02/04/08 03:19 PM
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When I had my first bout of CFS which was about a year after I started getting dental work again I recovered in about a year (I mentioned in another post). I was on prescription Bupropion (generic Wellbutrin). During that time the only supplement I took with great frequency was Melatonin. I remember taking 3mg (the most I've ever taken at once) and slept like I did when I was young (wonderful). I also was much into weighlifting and was taking a lot of protein powder (milk+egg and probably soy). Maybe an odd multi vitamin here and there but nothing else regular than the melatonin and protein.

Once the initial period of being scared to death about my health and running from Dr. to Dr. settled it was about a year before I could say I was cured. I kept going to the gym all the while sometimes under intense anxiety.

Anyway, now after reading the above from: http://www.cancertutor.com/Autism/ComprehensiveGuide.doc

I'm thinking that the Melatonin was much more important than I originally thought. It appears that he refers to a study on melatonin having chelating properties along with some other very interesting actions.

If that's the case how lucky was I to stumble upon a "cure" my first go around.

#31551 02/04/08 05:16 PM
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Probably not, it is most likely that exercising helped you, it is great for nervous/immune system

Melatonin might have given you good night sleep which is important too, but I don't think it is a chelator

#31552 02/04/08 05:45 PM
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I have never heard of melatonin being a chelating agent. It may correct some of the problems mercury causes and give the body more strength in doing that, relieving symptoms, but unless it has two thiol groups like other chelators, then it isn't a direct chelator.

Chelators grab on directly to metals and pull them out. I know there are nutrients that can compete with mercury for binding sites, or raise gluthatione levels and in doing so may indirectly cause some redistribution and elimination of some metals and toxins, but are not direct chelators.

I used to get many reactions with using products that could mobilise mercury by their actions, but they did not chelate it appropriately. I had to use the much stronger stuff to pull it out more effectively.

#31553 02/04/08 09:20 PM
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Oops, I forgot to include the quote:

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“A 24-hour exposure to 50 µg/L mercury induced significant cell cytotoxicity in neuroblastoma cells. Treatment of cells with melatonin before administration of mercury greatly reduced the mercury-induced cytotoxicity. Mercury treatment of cells produced another as yet undocumented phenomenon, that of inducing oxidative stress, as measured by the loss of reduced glutathione (GSH) from cells. This was a rapid process, requiring only 30 minutes of exposure to mercury. Similarly, pretreating the cells with melatonin...before administration protected cells from the mercury-induced oxidative stress. Melatonin’s mechanism of action is at present unclear; however, melatonin is known to bind heavy metals (Limson et al., 1998REF15) and to increase intracellular GSH levels through an up-regulation of GSH-synthesizing enzymes (Todoroki et al., 1998REF3). It is thus possible to speculate on two mechanisms for melatonin’s antioxidant action, namely, (a) melatonin as a chelating agent binding mercury, thus eliminating its cytotoxic properties, or (b) melatonin causing production of increased levels of intracellular antioxidants such as glutathione (Todoroki et al., 1998REF30). It is not excluded that both these mechanisms could be operating simultaneously.

“The release of both Aß 1-40 and Aß 1-42 into the culture medium was increased by exposure of SHSY5Y cells to mercury. Melatonin preincubation resulted in a significant decrease in Aß release....Mercury has previously been shown to be a potent inhibitor of enzymes, especially those containing sulfhydryl groups (Edstrom and Mattsson, 1976REF9). Protein kinase C activity in vitro and in brain tissue is markedly reduced in a concentration-dependent manner by mercury (Rajanna et al., 1995REF21).....Mercury induces both Aß production and oxidative stress; thus, the chelation of mercury by melatonin could shift the APP metabolism back toward the secretase pathway, reducing Aß production and the concomitant oxidative stress-inducing effects of mercury and Aß. Aß-Fibrillogenesis is also inhibited by melatonin, thereby potentially reducing the toxic buildup of Aß 1-40 and Aß 1-42 fibrils (Pappolla et al., 1998REF20). Furthermore, melatonin has been shown to reduce the release of soluble APP from cells in culture and to reduce the levels of APP mRNA and other housekeeping protein mRNAs (Song and Lahiri, 1997REF24). These data suggest that melatonin may be involved in metabolic mechanisms regulating APP and other essential cellular protein production, over and above its antioxidant capacity.

“In a similar fashion, mercury induced an increase in tau phosphorylation as compared with untreated cells. Melatonin treatment was able to protect cells from the mercury-induced tau hyperphosphorylation. Mercury’s influence on tau phosphorylation remains unclear; however, it may be an indirect effect via oxidative stress and Aß production. Both Aß and oxidative stress have been shown to influence tau phosphorylation (Busciglio et al., 1995REF6; Takashima et al., 1996REF26)”—Journal of Neurochemistry, Vol. 74, No. 1, 2000 231-236 © 2000 International Society for Neurochemistry.”

Melatonin is concentrated in the mitochondria, and protects them from oxidative damage. Dr. Reiter found melatonin to be 5.9 times more effective than glutathione and 11.3 times more effective than mannitol in fighting dangerous, hydroxyl radicals.

With the most pertinent part being:

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[color:"red"] Melatonin’s mechanism of action is at present unclear; however, melatonin is known to bind heavy metals (Limson et al., 1998REF15) and to increase intracellular GSH levels through an up-regulation of GSH-synthesizing enzymes (Todoroki et al., 1998REF3). It is thus possible to speculate on two mechanisms for melatonin’s antioxidant action, namely, (a) melatonin as a chelating agent binding mercury, thus eliminating its cytotoxic properties, or (b) melatonin causing production of increased levels of intracellular antioxidants such as glutathione (Todoroki et al., 1998REF30). It is not excluded that both these mechanisms could be operating simultaneously.[/color]


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