Someone who is "actually alive", is only "actually alive" because they were carried full term through pregnancy without accident or deliberate termination. Think about that.
All you’re saying here is that if everyone went out and had an abortion there’d be no people left. But considering that our withering world is racing towards a brick wall at break neck speed right now – due primarily to overpopulation – I don’t think that’s an issue here, whether abortion is morally just or not.
Both are living and equal in their right to life. Whether the unborn dies during pregnancy by natural means does not remove the fact it was human and alive. A fully grown adult, or a growing unborn child are no less in dignity or in their right to life.
I wouldn’t want to be brought into this world by someone who wishes to abort me. Moreover, I don’t think anyone would willingly accept life if they were born into abject poverty coupled with disease. The only humane act in these instances is to
not bring them into this world.
I don’t think there’s any harm in the deliberate aborting of a few weeks old fetus, as it is not an established being with emotions, regardless of which definition of ‘human’ you care to quibble over. That being said, I place far more value on a living hamster’s life than that of a 3 week old human fetus.
Whether microscopic in size or ready to be birthed, the baby is a human life.
This begs the question, do you eat meat? I mean if we are to adopt this idea of being so inexorably fixated on the notion of life –
all life – then I can’t help but wonder. If you are a vegetarian, do you consume animal products? If you don't consume any animal products (including honey and the purchasing of leather) do you sweep a broom upon the ground with every step you take to avoid killing insects on the ground? What makes those insects more important than you?
Anyway this isn't to say I am a vegetarian, I’m not. At times death is a necessary evil. I understand you live in a world where evil and righteousness seem very far apart but that is most definitely not the real world.
whether you don't wish to hear about any reasons for my value on human life being related to God or not related to God is not of interest. Nor am I about appealing to fragile sensitivites or ego. This is about human life, not about anger issues with Christianity.
My two closest colleagues at work are staunch Christians, both of whom I have the utmost respect for and absolutely no qualms with their belief system – primarily because they do not have qualms with mine nor seek to dissuade me. And it isn’t that I “don’t wish to hear about your reasons which are religious based”, it’s that this line of thinking is a fallacy. If you start using your religion as the backbone (or any part for that matter) of your argument, then you’re only speaking to those people who already agree with you. To these types of people we must all ask why they enter a debate in the first place.
Do you value YOUR life? If so, why should an unborn child not have the the life that you and I were given?
Perhaps because the mother in question is a rape victim, terminally ill (i.e., has HIV/AIDS), or lives in the squalor and decay of some 3rd world nation. You’re not doing the potential-infant any favors by bringing it into this world. I value life and I also value reality and the necessities (lesser of two evils, call it what you will) which life imposes upon us at times.
Religion has barely made mention into this argument until you continue to make those kinds of statements. You seem to be encouraging the argument to head in the very direction you're apparently trying to avoid.
On the contrary, I’m trying to make absolutely certain that the conversation does
not steer into that direction by pointing out the fallacy of religious/biblical-based arguments. I’m anticipating what always comes up in this age old debate. A summary glance at all the posts in this forum should prove to you why I would think someone is on the verge of posting bible quotes here in the first place. Just read pretty much any other thread here.
