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I hope Russ fixes this weird format, it's like reading teletext.
I understand what you are saying Bex and I think I can see your point of view. I would just like to ask you a few questions.
At what point do you call it a baby? The moment of conception? If so, how is it logical to claim that a small bundle of cells is the same thing as a small human being? In the light of the info that RAZD has given, also, about how common it is for pregnancy to go wrong and miscarriages to occur? Under law here, you cannot abort a fetus at more than 6 months, and if you are approaching that deadline it is next to impossible to do so. The law does recognise that a fetus is more or less a baby by that point. But a small bundle of reproducing cells? I think that is not so clear-cut.
It is also the mother who carries the baby to term for 9 months. Let's imagine she was raped. Let's say it was her own father. It's sick, but it's been known to happen. So you would force her to carry the baby to term would you? Nine months with that inside of her? Let's also say that she is a teenager and is trying to finish school. You would also force her to go to school in her condition, showing everyone there daily what has happened to her. Please tell me how this is humane or respectful of the young woman's rights in any way.
I don't think I'd object if abortion laws were tightened. I also would not object to the most humane methods being used and any other methods being outlawed. But a blanket ban on all abortions fails to take the rights of the mothers into consideration and elevates the rights of the unborn child over theirs.
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Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Russ
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01/25/08 01:27 AM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Kitsune
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01/25/08 08:05 AM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Pwcca
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01/25/08 08:51 PM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Bex
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01/26/08 04:54 AM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Kitsune
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01/26/08 07:38 AM
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Bex
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01/26/08 08:26 AM
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Re: Abortion - but Missing the Link to Evolution ...
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RAZD
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01/26/08 08:08 PM
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Re: Abortion - but Missing the Link to Evolution ...
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Bex
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01/27/08 06:30 AM
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RAZD
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01/27/08 06:42 PM
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Pwcca
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01/27/08 08:26 PM
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Bex
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01/27/08 10:09 PM
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Pwcca
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01/27/08 11:16 PM
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Bex
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01/27/08 11:51 PM
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Pwcca
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01/29/08 05:53 PM
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Re: Abortion - but Missing the Link to Evolution ...
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Laura Clement
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01/30/08 12:09 AM
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Bex
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01/30/08 01:52 AM
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Pwcca
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01/30/08 07:06 AM
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Pwcca
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01/30/08 07:30 AM
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Bex
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01/27/08 11:18 PM
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A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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RAZD
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01/28/08 03:06 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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Bex
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01/28/08 05:10 AM
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Quotes - admissions from abortionists and abortion clinic workers.
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Bex
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01/28/08 09:54 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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RAZD
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01/29/08 02:37 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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Bex
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01/29/08 04:59 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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Kitsune
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01/29/08 07:11 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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Bex
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01/29/08 08:32 PM
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human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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RAZD
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01/30/08 01:34 AM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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Bex
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01/30/08 05:24 AM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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RAZD
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02/09/08 08:09 PM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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SoSick
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02/10/08 02:54 PM
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Conception does not equal a Human Being
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RAZD
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02/10/08 03:49 PM
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SoSick
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02/11/08 04:05 PM
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RAZD
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02/12/08 12:26 AM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 03:04 AM
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RAZD
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02/12/08 04:14 AM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 04:09 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 05:04 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 06:27 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 06:58 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 07:11 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 08:44 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 08:52 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 09:41 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 10:26 PM
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Pwcca
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02/12/08 10:56 PM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 03:01 AM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 08:25 AM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 04:13 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 04:36 PM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 04:54 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 05:18 PM
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Pwcca
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02/13/08 06:29 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 08:38 PM
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Peace, at last?
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SoSick
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02/14/08 05:29 AM
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SoSick
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02/17/08 07:57 PM
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Bex
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02/17/08 09:46 PM
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Kitsune
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02/17/08 10:42 PM
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Bex
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02/18/08 01:15 AM
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SoSick
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02/18/08 03:53 AM
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Re: Peace, at last?
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Bex
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02/18/08 03:59 AM
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Re: Conception does not equal a Human Being
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SoSick
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02/13/08 07:38 PM
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RAZD
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02/13/08 03:16 AM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 06:24 AM
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RAZD
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02/13/08 01:01 PM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 03:49 PM
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RAZD
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02/13/08 04:36 PM
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CTD
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10/13/09 01:43 AM
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The red herring Haeckel
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RAZD
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01/30/08 01:39 AM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Bex
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01/26/08 10:00 AM
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Kitsune
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01/26/08 10:55 AM
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Re: Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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RAZD
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01/26/08 02:52 PM
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