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I hope the author of this article does not support the death penalty? Many of the same people who defend the rights of the unborn, also support putting people to death, and some of them also think it's OK to attack doctors and clinicians.
It's also oversimplifying things to say that people who are pro-abortion see fetuses as nothing more than animals. And it is pure, spurious wishful thinking on the creationists' part to try to pin this on Haeckel.
I've been through the process of bringing a child into the world. I initially had a miscarriage at about 6 weeks. It was upsetting. Would I ever choose to have an abortion myself? Probably not. I felt there was life inside me. But the line I draw is arbitrary and personal. At what point do I see it as an actual human being, versus a couple of cells? A couple of cells are no more of a human being than a bit of blood or a tissue sample. I used to think I considered it more of a "life" when the heart started beating, but again that is a personal arbitrary decision.
If a woman has been raped, if her life is in danger, or if she is completely unable to look after herself while pregnant (i.e. if she's taking hard drugs), then I think it is a violation of her human rights to deny her the choice of abortion. What's more, many women will choose to have an abortion for other reasons, and they will do it whether or not it is legal. However we may feel morally about their decision, surely it's best to provide them the safe conditions in which to do so. There can be limitations within law to prevent women from seeing it as nothing more than a contraceptive, give them time to consider, and support them in exploring other options.
There are no absolutes in life, and exceptions to every rule. The powers-that-be have dictated to women what to do with their bodies for millennia and they're not through yet.
A suggestion: evolution is the change in life over time. There has been no evidence presented anywhere here that it is responsible for abortion (a practice which existed long before the theory of evolution) or any other preceived evils of society.
Edit: What's happened here-? Odd format.
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Evolution - The Missing Link of Abortion
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Russ
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01/25/08 01:27 AM
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Kitsune
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01/25/08 08:05 AM
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Pwcca
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01/25/08 08:51 PM
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Bex
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01/26/08 04:54 AM
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Kitsune
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01/26/08 07:38 AM
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Bex
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01/26/08 08:26 AM
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Re: Abortion - but Missing the Link to Evolution ...
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RAZD
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01/26/08 08:08 PM
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Bex
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01/27/08 06:30 AM
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RAZD
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01/27/08 06:42 PM
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Pwcca
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01/27/08 08:26 PM
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Bex
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01/27/08 10:09 PM
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Pwcca
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01/27/08 11:16 PM
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Bex
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01/27/08 11:51 PM
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Pwcca
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01/29/08 05:53 PM
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Laura Clement
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01/30/08 12:09 AM
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Bex
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01/30/08 01:52 AM
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Pwcca
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01/30/08 07:06 AM
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Pwcca
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01/30/08 07:30 AM
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Bex
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01/27/08 11:18 PM
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A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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RAZD
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01/28/08 03:06 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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Bex
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01/28/08 05:10 AM
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Quotes - admissions from abortionists and abortion clinic workers.
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Bex
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01/28/08 09:54 AM
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Re: A pregnancy sac is still NOT a human life, no matter how you conceive it.
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RAZD
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01/29/08 02:37 AM
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Bex
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01/29/08 04:59 AM
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Kitsune
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01/29/08 07:11 AM
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Bex
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01/29/08 08:32 PM
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human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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RAZD
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01/30/08 01:34 AM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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Bex
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01/30/08 05:24 AM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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RAZD
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02/09/08 08:09 PM
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Re: human development and missing information ... as well as missing embryos
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SoSick
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02/10/08 02:54 PM
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Conception does not equal a Human Being
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RAZD
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02/10/08 03:49 PM
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SoSick
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02/11/08 04:05 PM
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RAZD
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02/12/08 12:26 AM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 03:04 AM
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RAZD
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02/12/08 04:14 AM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 04:09 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 05:04 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 06:27 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 06:58 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 07:11 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 08:44 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 08:52 PM
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Kitsune
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02/12/08 09:41 PM
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SoSick
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02/12/08 10:26 PM
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Pwcca
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02/12/08 10:56 PM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 03:01 AM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 08:25 AM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 04:13 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 04:36 PM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 04:54 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 05:18 PM
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Pwcca
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02/13/08 06:29 PM
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Kitsune
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02/13/08 08:38 PM
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Peace, at last?
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SoSick
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02/14/08 05:29 AM
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SoSick
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02/17/08 07:57 PM
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Bex
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02/17/08 09:46 PM
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Kitsune
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02/17/08 10:42 PM
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Bex
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02/18/08 01:15 AM
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SoSick
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02/18/08 03:53 AM
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Bex
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02/18/08 03:59 AM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 07:38 PM
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RAZD
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02/13/08 03:16 AM
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SoSick
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02/13/08 06:24 AM
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RAZD
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02/13/08 01:01 PM
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SoSick
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RAZD
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02/13/08 04:36 PM
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CTD
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10/13/09 01:43 AM
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The red herring Haeckel
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RAZD
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01/30/08 01:39 AM
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Bex
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01/26/08 10:00 AM
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Kitsune
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01/26/08 10:55 AM
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RAZD
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01/26/08 02:52 PM
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