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But, I never said amalgam removal is enough, so your concern about that is unnecessary. This is what I said:

"This negative effect of mercury usually clears within a few days after all the fillings have been removed, and then you have the burden of removing these infections."

I was correct in my concern. What you are saying is that the negative effects of mercury usually clear within days after all fillings are removed....this flies in the face of just about every expert I know on mercury, both on the net and in reality and I will go with them everytime. Again I will repeat, mercury is not just a direct poison in its effect on immunity, it is an accummulative poison. It builds up in tissues/organs and brain, which is why removing amalgams is not removing the stored poisons. Because of this, it is required that people who have been poisoned by the stuff (long term), need to chelate it back out. Pathogens or no pathogens, stored mercury will continue to poison the body systems and allow pathogens to flourish due to keeping the person toxic. So the person usually suffers from multiple toxicities. You can kill pathogens as much as you like, they continue to come back until stored mercury is chelated out (if that is your problem).

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So, what you need to do is to clear your infections, they can be viral, bacterial, parasitic in nature. I consider that the supplements I take are aimed at these and nothing else, even if ALA is included.
Mercury is anti-bacterial/fungal as well so it can actually kill pathogens too (ask any expert about why thimerosal is added into vaccines). The reason why you got bad reactions from visiting the dental office could be explained by this mechanism, and the symptoms you gave are really ammonia related (chest pain etc.), caused by a die-off. I also got some of them, but only when I attempted to kill pathogens. You can get these symptoms in various ways (mine came from use of B12), because many things work against pathogens. You should also take into account that the majority of the population in the world tolerates amalgam fillings well, regardless if their exposure is high, and they must accumulate mercury too.

Uh huh, so what I need to do is just clear my infections. As if I haven't been doing that for years already and eating the right foods, taking the right stuff. Sorry more to it than that.

People here use DMSA or ALA to clear their body/brain storage of mercury not pathogens, because that is what they are designed for. They are not pathogen chelating agents, they are metal chelating agents, as well as ALA having antioxidant properties. If you use them for pathogens, that is your business but one must wonder if that is so, why would you use it Andy Cutler style? Considering you don't seem to believe much else of what he says....and this style of chelating has zero to do with pathogens, it's designed for the nature of mercury and the way it works. Andy's protocol is unique for this alone. So I'm curious as to why you'd go through the annoyance of the every 3 hour dosage for....."pathogens". Mercury redistribution by the way has harmed people many times, in some cases caused permanent damage. Mercury must be removed by tissues/organs and brain as safely as possible and Andy has studied this for years and found the best way to do so. Maybe you ought to tell him that he's wasted his time and it's all about pathogens <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> afterall every other doctor I know of who studies this and chelates their mercury toxic patients from stored mercury are.....also wrong.

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The reason why you got bad reactions from visiting the dental office could be explained by this mechanism, and the symptoms you gave are really ammonia related (chest pain etc.), caused by a die-off. I also got some of them, but only when I attempted to kill pathogens. You can get these symptoms in various ways (mine came from use of B12), because many things work against pathogens. You should also take into account that the majority of the population in the world tolerates amalgam fillings well, regardless if their exposure is high, and they must accumulate mercury too.

The reasons I got sick from a dental office visit is just breathing in mercury vapors, it's happened each and everytime. Happens to a few others also. Not all people get this, depends on how sensitive a person is with mercury and how well they handle exposure. I have already taken into account that there are people who tolerate amalgams very well, I've said this in many of my posts and even if the exposure is high......we all know this. IN using them as a way to play down mercury's problems in the rest of us (other than pathgoens) is kind of insulting. People react to things very differently and some have a better immune status, or less reactivity, or less tendency to retain the mercury than others. However, I will say this. Just about everybody in my family that has amalgams is not exactly what I would call specimens of health either. I take a look at two much older people in my family with false teeth and they're standouts as far as health goes. Interesting that. But mercury seems to really effect certain people profoundly and I'm one of them. I am also coincidentally highly senstive to all metals and cannot wear any jewellery. I also do not have a very good immune system, as shown by my constant vulnerabilities and difficulty in healing.

The mechanism of mercury on bacteria may work when it is added to preparations, but unfortunately there is a difference when mercury is poisoning a human body.

Sorry pgm, the difference with mercury in the human body and a vaccine is a very different matter and you'll find a person who gets poisoned by mercury because they tend to retain it, rather than excrete it is usually a mess with pathogens as we see on this forum. The effects on the immune system, the effects on every body system with mercury is profound. They have done studies already on that and autopsies to find mercury accummulates in organs and brain which is really the cause of most of the ongoing problems we see. So we know that as it's the most toxic metal around, it definitely is not benign and continues to poison until chelated back out.

Frankly I feel like I am going around in circles. First of all you said that mercury allows pathogens to flourish because of it's affect on immunity.....now you say that mercury actually kills off bactera, so it kills the pathogens inside of us.....and now you're "explaining" to me why I got sick from the dental office and how it's really related to pathogens and ammonia, not exposure symptoms from mercury vapor....Well I know what I experienced, I recognise metal toxicity when it hits me and I recognise pathogens and pathgoen die off. And this is not pathogen related. The effects of mercury on me are recognised easily. I had it for years. I know almost immediately when I'm in contact with the stuff.

Believe me, my pathgoens didn't die off. As with any toxic exposure, I'm battling a worse pathogen problem than I was. Happens everytime. Unfortunately pgm, unless a person chelates their mercury out (not just amalgam removal), they'll usually continue to battle their pathogens/infections and related problems (hormonal too) as long as the mercury stays there. E.g. the pituatory gland is one that mercury poisons also and then people are attempting to treat all their hormonal problems with many different things in an attempt to gain relief. With chelation, there is usually a profound improvement in related pathogen overgrowth as well as other issues that resulted from it. But as with anything, it takes a long time.

It's not really wise to treat one without the other. If one concentrates more on either of these things, they may wind up disappointed as I did. Both of these issues should be treated with equal enthusiasm, but if the underlying problem is poisoning by mercury than it is a no brainer that the stored mercury needs to be chelated out of there on a safe and effective protocol so as to not make matters unnecessarily worse.

As far as I know, unless the underlying problem is not dealt with, the most marathon efforts towards pathogens will usually be a short term remedy.