Thanks again SoSick, you are such an example of christian love.

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... since the people you are discussing threatened no one, I find it odd you would call them terrorists.
Fred Phelps has some issues but he is hardly a terrorist either.


What's interesting about this is that I didn't call the Phelps or Koresh terrorists or an 'extremist militant terrorist christian group' -- you did. I said they were dangerous, deluded and fanatic people. You seem to be confused again. What I said was that Christian terrorist training camps (like the one in the videos) AND Fred Phelps AND David Koresh could be considered dangerous deluded people, fanatics, and that they could be a danger to society. Here you can check the evidence:

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RAZD message 248562 (refering to the camp videos):
These people are not harmless, but dangerous extremist militant religious fanatics that are no different from the muslim religious fanatics or the protestant\catholic religious fanatics.
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RAZD message 248576:
Meanwhile, what do you think of the Christian terrorist training camps? Fred Phelps? David Koresh? etc etc etc. - - - don't you agree that these are dangerously deluded people that actually harm the christian faith?
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RAZD message 248578:
So don't you think that extremist militant terrorist christian groups in this country should be considered a problem for society as a whole, including christians that don't condone terrorism? Don't you think they are deluded?
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RAZD message 248591:
Don't you agree that dangerously deluded people are a threat to society? Do you agree that these people qualify?
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SoSick message248584:
Concerning 'extremist militant terrorist christian groups' such as David Koresh, I cannot defend David Koresh. No one can. No one does, even those who knew him have difficulty with it. I was not however, aware that he was an ' extremist militant terrorist christian group' .
Normal people don't stock-pile machine guns and other arms and ammo sufficient to take on a small army. Fanatics do.
I didn't ask if you could 'defend' Koresh, I asked you if you thought he was deluded and dangerous. It relates to the topic - the god delusion - and it's impact on society ... and as yet you haven't answered that question.

Don't you agree that there exist dangerous deluded christian groups?

Don't you think the Christian terrorist training camps (like the one in the videos) qualify?

Don't you think David Koresh qualifies?

Don't you think Fred Phelps qualifies?

Don't you think these people are "bad press" for christians in general?

Don't you agree that "dangerous extremist militant religious fanatics" are bad for society whether they are christian, mulsim, hindu, jewish, or whatever?

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your hatred of Christians and labeling of these two groups as terrorists...

It's not a question based on hate, SoSick, it's a question about the truth. Don't confuse your (evident) hatred of truth with the truth (or the bearer of truth) hating you, for truth is impersonal. Telling the truth is an act of love.

If you want to see hate look at any video of Fred Phelps or his children, then ask yourself if that is a good advertisement for christianity. With friends like that who needs enemies.

Enjoy.

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