Thanks again SoSick, you are such an inspiration.

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Here's the Declaration of Independence, penned by Thomas Jefferson himself :
why don't you read it?

I have, I also note that it is not a part of the constitution that defines our government, which is where the separation of church and state is ensconced.

I also notice that Thomas Jefferson, a Deist, penned the Declaration of Independence, and he referred to the "Nature's God" of Deists.

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" ... to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, ... "

And that this is the only mention in that document. Meanwhile your claim was:

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... that they felt the need to put it in writing. If God were a small matter to them they would not have needed to mention His authority redundantly with praise.

This you have not shown. Not in one government document.

I love your use of the word " redundantly" btw.

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I know the Catholic church and church of England were two separate entities that's why I mentioned them as two separate entities, bonehead.

So you concur that the catholic church had nothing to do with persecuting pilgrims (and others) in england, but that you just happened to mention the catholic church while talking about persecuting pilgrims in england ... what was it you said?

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... the Catholic church or Chrurch of England was not so distant a memory for them. It is what drove the Puritans to cross the sea and settle here in the wilderness. They were being killed by the thousands by the church/govt of England.


RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

I also notice that you don't admit that the excessive persecution of others by the pilgrim theocracy in Massachusetts as being a far more immediate and telling reason for the separation of church and state. How long did it take them to go from persecuted to persecutor?

And we're not talking about other religions persecuting christians, but christians persecuting other christians. The irony is killing me.

So don't you think that extremist militant terrorist christian groups in this country should be considered a problem for society as a whole, including christians that don't condone terrorism? Don't you think they are deluded?

Enjoy.

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