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What's more, I spent far too much time hunting through SoSick's messages last night to want to carry on talking about things she's said. The logic from the statements from her seems to go as follows: People are successful because they have done nothing to offend God; because they have a good relationship with him. It follows that people are not successful, or are suffering, because they have done something to offend him or do not have a good relationship with him. These simplistic statements made me angry. If she honestly does not believe this, she can say so. I'm done with raking it over, but I have at least given the evidence for why I was saying what I was.

heh, funny, did you spend hours and hours at it? Seems you didn't find very much.

I actually do believe that, however you are strectching my statements quite a bit, since you'd probably have quite a difficult time finding anyone who has never offended God, or sinned, or who wasn't born an enemy of God as the bible states we all have been... and past that I cannot bother taking the time to qualify anything futher because it takes too much time to argue with you, as is clearly evident by the fact that this forum is full of people arguing with you about your assumptions and misunderstandings.

I will say however, that success is not always measured with $$$, so using that to qualify success is a huge error and thinking that the Christian walk is an easy walk is a huger error... I realize that leaves huge gaps but that's the way it has to be because I really do find the bickering obnoxious.