LindaLou,

Your false accusations and erroneous generalizations about Russ' Christian beliefs and character have only served to undermine your own credibility and place you in the precarious position of appearing a liar.

You didn't just say that he believed bad things happen to people because they deserve them...

Your original accusation also included a blatant reference to his Christian beliefs:

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according to these same people we've brought it on ourselves because we are sinners. [Emphasis added]


Then in your next post you boldy stated:

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These are the things they say, simple as that."



Well LindaLou, you couldn't have been more wrong!

I am shocked at how you post these slanderous, false accusations and then arrogantly conclude them to be as "simple as that.

You admit that you can't find any evidence to support the false accusations you made about Russ.

Yet, in your very next breath you attack him again with the same disproven, false accusation by saying:

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I do have a memory of you, I and Pwcca having a conversation where you had said that the people in Africa are suffering because they are not Christian.


LindaLou, you admitted you found no proof that Russ ever made these statements.

You obviously cannot be trusted to accurately or truthfully state what Russ says or believes. Apparently you didn't bother to "check your sources" BEFORE you made your wild accusations.

But you know you have a memory of Russ saying these things?

Enough already. You need to stop these baseless, deceitful accusations.

Yet, I doubt that you will, because by your own actions you have established a pattern of behavior of personally attacking Russ and Christians/Christianity in general. (And as for your vicious attacks against Hovind, they require their own post, which I'll address at another time).

You have proven yourself to be someone who has been quick to accuse, attack and slander without regard for the truth or the consequences of your actions. A quick review of just a few of your posts is quite telling (I have bolded certain statements to emphasize my point):

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#249126 - 01/18/08 05:22 AM - The fact of the matter remains that you simply cannot respond in a logical or scientific way to sensible challenges to the nonsense you are posting, which is why you will not allow anyone to post a challenge in the first place.


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#249151 - 01/18/08 09:00 AM - Poor persecuted Christians, not being allowed to claim creationism as science in schools or museums.
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The bias here is clear and it is also clear that you intend to preach what you believe is the truth by posting locked lists and hoping to drown out the voice of the opposition with them.


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#249435 - 01/23/08 - Russ if you don't want to run this part of the forum anymore, or if you want to turn it into a creationists area and exclude all other views, why not just be honest and say so? First you lock threads, then you lock the Post option; what next I wonder?


The last post above was where you, once again, accused Russ of something that wasn't true. You accused him of deliberately preventing anyone from making new posts, when in actuality, the problem was simply a technical glitch that occurred when performing some upgrades to the forum.

Below, you accused Russ on multiple occasions of willfully deleting your post (simply because you couldn't find it). (Incidentally, RAZD found your post which was not deleted at all (#247555 - 12/12/07 10:01 PM).)

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#246827 - 12/02/07 04:48 AM - At the moment the implication seems to be that as the sole moderator, and a creationist, you have the power and the willingness to delete posts you don't like, and lock threads so that it is impossible to respond to the creationist claims that inevitably remain.


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#246856 - 12/03/07 02:49 AM - It isn't a fair playing field, as anyone will see. Posts can be deleted without warning or explanation, and apparently it's OK to tell people they are dumb and assinine without fear of even a warning. In a way it's quite clever -- it insures that anyone posting the facts about evolution is eventually going to get railroaded out.


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#247302 - 12/09/07 05:29 PM - Derogatory remarks about you? Only that a couple of things have happened that I do perceive as unfair. One of my posts appears to have been deleted by you without warning or explanation, and the thread locked.

#247359 - 12/10/07 04:37 PM - When I joined this forum, the "Evolution of Man Disproved in 50 Arguments" thread was open, not locked, and I wrote a lengthy reply to it over a couple of days when I had a lot of time on my hands. It is now gone and the thread is locked. These are the facts. I don't understand why my post vanished, but as the thread was locked as well, it seemed a reasonable assumption to make that you deleted the post and decided not to let anyone else, including me, reply to it.



Had I more time, I would also address your debate tactics and how I have seen you craftily twist and take things out-of-context that Russ has said when arguing with him.

Suffice it to say that you clearly, without regard for the truth, put false words in his mouth. You have made statements of "facts" about what he has said that are simply untrue.

LindaLou, if you have proven that we can't believe what you say about Russ or the things he has said, how can we believe what you say about evolution?


False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil.
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC), Dialogues, Phaedo

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939


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