Thank you again for your response SoSick

I notice that (a) you failed to address a single issue or in any way provide any substantiation for a single one of your positions, whether it is on this thread that you started and cannot seem to justify in any way, or any others I have read. All you do is post irrelevant confusion. I thought that to have a mature sound rational opinion one had to have a basis for it, a foundation, a reason. Apparently you don't have any.

And (b) You still have not posted any concept for what you think evolution involves, the closest you come is a circular tautology (that incidental recognizes the fact that evolution has occurred):
Certainly you cannot believe that this evolution is what caused those kids to kill, nor would teaching that fact cause those kids to kill. If that is your definition you used when you wrote the post, the inclusion of evolution in the title and in the argument blaming the teaching of evolution for the kids killing, makes no rational sense. None. Zero. Nada.

When you argue that the definition doesn't matter, that "in the end it's all the same" then you are in essence arguing that evolution can mean {A} and it can mean {notA} without affecting your argument. This is a proof that you don't really have a single valid reason for including the word "Evolution" in the title of your article, or any reason to blame the teaching of evolution to those kids (especially as they could have been taught {A} or {notA}).

Without an understanding of your misconception of what evolution is or involves, it is not possible to judge the reality of your opinions. Without substantiation all you have are your opinions, ones that have frequently involved reviling people out of hand and without cause, and for no apparent rational reason. For the record:
Notice that to be delusional in the psychiatric sense (delusion/3) you need to be in denial of objective evidence that contradicts your belief. Simple delusion (delusion/2) like ignorance, can be cured by learning the truth.

I have posted a true definition for evolution, substantiated that with the facts of definitions from several sources, and further backed that with evidence that is observable by anyone with eyes: that evolution occurs in every generation, as offspring are not clones of parents. If you have any doubts about my position on evolution you can read Evolution and the BIG LIE.

Neither you, on the one hand, nor Russ on the other hand, nor any other poster (I've run out of hands), have provided anything more than a falsified mantra and equivocation. No substantiation from any source and certainly no evidence that supports your totally absent position, nor Russ' silly mantra that he rolls out with the assurance from learning it in high school (and that he hasn't learned the error of it since). You certainly have not even provided a logical argument for your pathetic claims in your original post: was there some reason you wrote that? It seems to have evaporated as you continually back off from your previous positions.

As such there is no evidence for me to be in denial of, while there are a few facts for you to consider:

(1) evolution is a fact (as you recognize) as well as a fully scientific theory AND a mature science - Evolutionary Biology - based on fact, theory, prediction, testing, evaluation, and - when necessary - reformulation or revision of theory (that happens in science).

(2) the earth is old, the evidence that it is old is as overwhelming as the evidence that the earth is not the center of the universe with everything else in orbits around it, and the full understanding of the fact of old age was beginning to be known before well Darwin developed Darwinism.

(3) this fact of old age is independent of evolution, and is based on the evidence and science in geology, chemistry, physics and astronomy. The evidence is readily available to anyone interested.

(4) modern Evolutionary Biology is not Darwinism as it contains many sub-fields, like genetics, that are not part of the original Darwinism. Science grows, develops, expands ... evolves.

(5) the modern Evolutionary Biology definition for the process of evolution can be simply, truthfully and honestly stated as:

...[color:"purple"]evolution is the change in hereditary traits in populations from generation to generation.[/color]

(6) "rocks to cell" or "cells to people" is not part of any definition of evolution used in science by scientists studying evolution.

(7) the truth shall set you free.

Enjoy.

Note: [color:"green"]My time (too) is limited, so I post on threads of particular interest to me, but I cannot guarantee a reply to all responses (particularly if they do not discuss the issue/s), and I expect other people to do the same. Thank you for your consideration.[/color]