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Do you mean you plagiarised it from someone else and passed it off as your writing?


Funny. is it that impressive? No, it's mine, straight off the desktop, unedited. I have been writing for quite some time. A few decades. People say the same thing to me about my paintings. Funny. Ok. Get a life I guess.

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No, what I am doing is responding to a false argument that has a false representation of evolution and of people that work with evolution, one that demonizes science teachers for no rational or ethical reason. It draws a superious post hoc ergo propter hoc conclusion that is not just a logical fallacy but a conclusion unrelated to truth.


but I didn't mention science teachers so how did you draw that conclusion? How do you come to the conclusion that it is a false argument when I gave a link to the website of so-called christian churches that do support evolution? Do you know anything about this incident aside from what you have read here? Do you know any people who go to those churches and attend missionary school with YWAM?

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How do you determine which churches are deceptive and which are being truthful? What is your test of reality?

I explained that above. Either God created the world or he didn't. Just read it again if you are confused.

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What issues are caused by teaching scientific truths? Isn't a rational view of the world based on truth?

Depends on your perspective I guess. Evolution is not a scientific truth. it's 100% theory.

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So what is your opinion of creationists that make false claims, don't validate their concepts with a test for reality (commonly called a reality check), and think that blanket insults of school teachers is ethical? Can you tell me why - if creationism is true - virtually every creationist website lies about reality, about what evolution really is and what the age of the earth is?

Truthfully, I don't read a lot of creation or evolution literature. I don't make a point of it ,that is. Too busy, sorry. i stumble across it here and there so I really cannot make a claim either way. I know the basics, was taught evolution briefly in HS myself, everyone knows the basics for that reason. The stuff I have stumbled into, i haven't noticed a lot of lies from creationists. I have noticed quite a bit of conjecture on both sides to be perfectly honest. essentially I think that if evolutionists can conjecture then they should expect others to conjecture in return. Conjecture does breed conjecture. I do know for sure a lot of the dating is way off. Hundreds of millions of years off. I used to do a lot of fossil hunting as a kid. things can fossilize quite quickly under the right conditions. Also, pterosaurs still exist. Too many stories of that to ignore. no I have never seen one in person myself. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were a couple living in the palisades near the G washington bridge in NYC. did you catch that short video?

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Do you think school children should be taught falsehoods? Known falsehoods?
What do you use to determine truth?


absolutely not. It's a big problem. we don't teach them the truth (in public schools) about a number of things. sometimes I get the impression the school systems are more interested in workers for the corporations than in education. If you've ever had a chance to compare the educations kids receive in private schools as opposed to public schools, you would have a hard time disagreeing with that too.

I use experience to determine tuth. Actual facts. Proven evidence of proposed theories. One proof is not even enough for me. If something is true, it will repeatedly result in the same effect or observable action. Truth can however be affected in rare instances by uncommon circumstances.

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In other words you have no real working definition for evolution, you have no idea what the science really studies, you are ignorant of what evolution involves, but that didn't stop you from portraying it as evil. Can you tell me how this is an ethical thing to do?

Of course I have a working definition (life evolved), but it's apparent that anyone who loves to argue about evolution has a dozen different ways to define it. In the end it's all the same isn't it? Life evolved, no matter which way you cut, end result is the same. Definition complete in two words.

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This also says that you don't care what the true definition is, what reality is, as it doesn't affect your opinion based on ignorance and - no polite way to say it - bigotry.

Right Christian bigot. that's me. Would you like me to define you?

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Thanks.

You're welcome.

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I notice you were not able to answer the question about where Buddha is buried.

I notice you either did not read or did not comprehend my first post - I will only reply to the first responses to my posts. This is my policy to prevent being piled on by many different people answering the same post. It's a policy I can recommend to anyone who has been on a forum where they are outnumbered.


since you felt free enough to move off subject I took the liberty myself. is that a problem? Would you like me to define you again? If you move off subject, I am required to move off subject.

Please follow the same guidelines you just set forth in regard to the thread as it was begun, and stick to the subject. The subject is so-called christian churches using deception and the problems that causes for the Christian community in general, and likewise affects our perceptions of things like ethics and morality within society as a whole. The question of why teaching evolution is inexplicably tied to the same churches that promote same sex marriage has also been raised.