Do I have a degree in science? No. No one needs one in order to understand basic scientific principles. I have been giving links for people to read if they want to, if they don't understand a point I'm making or if they want to check the evidence out for themselves. I'm asked on other sites where I talk about alt med, if I am a doctor. They want me to say I'm not, and shut up. But we know that alt med trumps the knowledge of your average GP any day. All you have to do is educate yourself.

It's interesting to hear these personal comments from creationists about what an awful teacher I must be. I guess that must be me from the start because I'm teaching my 4-year-old girl about evolution. Shock horror. By the way, the reality is more boring than that. I don't stand in front of the class spouting any kind of dogma at them. I mostly help them learn how to pass their English exams. I had a very good report at the end of my return-to-teaching course from the head of department so I can't be that bad.

Look Bex, you see how the quote mined quotes are being used. You can see that they are being taken out of context. They are misrepresenting what the scientists are saying. If they were simply repeating what the scientists said, and putting them in the proper context, then there's no reason why I would be complaining. But they're not, isn't it obvious? Haven't I explained enough examples to show this or do I need to address still more?

Hovind. He says on his "Dr. Dino" website that he graduated from Midwestern Baptist College in Michigan in education and Bible and received his master´s and doctoral degrees in education from Patriot University, "a small Christian University in Colorado." (http://www.drdino.com/FAQs/FAQmisc.htm#Q: Where did you get your degree?). In Part One of his videotape seminar, he boasts a "PhD in education." Let's have a closer look at these credentials.

MBC offers little science instruction, and it is saturated with religious doctrine; the objective of the MBC Department of Education is to train students "for teaching in Christian schools" (http://www.midwesternbaptist.edu/school/courseeducation.htm. The Division of Science offers only 4 undergraduate courses (one is "Creation Science"), all slanted toward Biblical literalism (http://www.midwesternbaptist.edu/school/coursescience.htm. The objective of the sole science education course offered by the MBC Department. of Education is to learn "to present to an elementary class the universe which God has marvelously created" (http://www.midwesternbaptist.edu/school/courseeducation.htm). Hovind´s education at MBC would never qualify him to teach in any school with a legitimate science curriculum.

Hovind´s credentials from Patriot University are even less substantial. PU was formerly in Colorado Springs CO, but is now in Alamos CO, in a house near the College Heights Baptist Church The street address ["External Studies Department Bulletin," Fall 1997] is the residential address of PU´s Executive Director of External Studies, Dr Lonnie Skinner (http://www.anywho.com.) The Bulletin indicates how a university could simply relocate to another town: There is no faculty, and credit is offered for "life experience and ministry evaluation". The courses, workbooks, audiotapes, and videotapes can be completed in 2-4 weeks. Tuition is a voluntary, monthly "freewill offering". The only graduate science course is "SC 701 - Biblical Basis of Modern Science". The DMin is offered in Biblical Studies, Pastoral Studies, Evangelism and Missions, Christian Education, and Christian Counseling.

Patriot is accredited only by the American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions, which Steve Levicoff in Name It and Frame It classifies as an "accrediting mill" (Levicoff, Chapter 12). The US Dept of Education does not recognize AAATI as an accrediting agency (US Dept of Education, September 1998, p 28). Hovind´s PhD clearly does not meet even minimally respectable academic standards.

You can also find out about his "dissertation" here http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/bartelt_dissertation_on_hovind_thesis.htm "The Dissertation Kent Hovind Doesn't Want You to Read." It was 101 pages in length, has no title, is full of spelling errors, contains no original research, is highly repetitious, and completely lacks references.

How honest is this from someone who claims to have been a high school physics teacher with a PhD?