These are my Mum’s hands.

She has itchy red lumps coming up. They are on her arms and legs. They itch like mad and any scratching makes them much worse. The lumps become hard and are unsightly, but the pain is worrying her.

When they start appearing, the lumps are red with a kind of white dot in the middle.
She has had them for 3 months now. After initial itchiness, the lumps have become hard and scar like.

They are very heat sensitive. Too hot and they all flare up and hurt&itch more. She cannot have very hot baths or hot showers anymore.

She has been to see 3 different Regular doctors and they could not help.

Are these called Hives?????

If they where hives I expect the doctors to have known that?

Anyone got any bright ideas what they are? And what to do about them?

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I WOULD TRY SILVER, IT ALWAYS HELPS ME WITH MY SKIN PROBLEMS. TELL HER TO PUT IT ON BEFORE SHE GOES TO BED. I WOULD RECOMMEND ONE OF YOUR FAMOUS SALT BATHS TOO!!!

I know all sorts of skin problems are toxins coming out , perhaps try bentonite clay on skin to draw the toxins out.

Sunshine, remember the itchy skin after you ate some heavy duty parasite killer, the clarkia i think...

she probably has a bad case of it. the white dot in center indicative of parsites in the skin. What they do is they will find a spot and they form little cysts there... once they are in cyst formation they are really hard to get rid of, doctors will sometimes use providone iodine, inject it, to kill the parasite inside the cyst. It's actually a precurser of cancer, Sunshine, those cysts, she needs to stop it, it may be going on inside as well. Give her your clarkia and she needs to heavy dose with it .I've had a little cyst on my leg for about 20 years, never knew what it was till now. II am going to find a hypodermic and inject just a drop of iodine in there myself I think. That one is small, about 1/16 of an inch big, maybe a tad more, I had another one, never turned red or anything, was just a bump that would never go away, you see them on people everywhere as they get older, it was along my lower jawbone, on my face, almost under my chin/cheek. Been there for about 5 years. That one has gone away since the parasite cleanse.

my colon cleanse lady showed me those red dots on her arms a few months ago, and she pointed to the white dot in the center and said, these are parasites, I am wondering where I got them from. She had a bunch on her arms/hands. She handles a lot of people, dirty garments etc. Twas then i realized I had some too.

Hives get real swollen, like a big big mosquito bite, and usually go away after a few days, so probably not that. Doctors should know what hives look.

Mixing tea tree oil with sesame, a lot of tea tree, and using it on her skin daily may help them from spreading. But she should still do the clarkia.

Well, now we know where you got your itchy case from probably. I think I picked up a lot of stuff from my parents too.

I really do have a lot of work today...

the only thing that was close in the desciption was either chickenpox or shingles both start as tiny blisters with a pimple in the center and are followed by weakness and fever does she show any of these type of symtoms both are very painfull to the touch

I once had a case of scabies, which looked and felt very much like what you describe. Picked it up off a resident when I was working in an elder care facility.
Was about 15 years ago, and just got some cream from the doctor. Can't remember what it was, but it worked.
I was paranoid about every little itch for 2 or 3 years after.
The photos look very much like the elderly lady's skin who had the scabies. Poor lady was covered, all over her body. Doctor was treating HER for hives.
Saline Baths can't hurt, but only luke warm. Make sure you use enough salt. Needs to be stronger than normal saline, which is 0.9%. This is about 1 teaspoon to an imperial pint of water. This will be very drying on skin, so teatree oil may be beneficial after. If the itching is too bad, cold compresses may help. Heat will increase the itch.
My thoughts are with you.
In olden times people used to dig holes in their skin to try to stop the itching.!!!
Not sure what else to advise, but don't ignore it.
Doesn't sound like shingles, which tends to be more painful than itchy, but difficult to say without seeing it in real life.
Good luck.
Let us know progress.
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Treva: yes, I have discussed my famous baths, but she is very heat sensitive, so they are not top of the list, but they will be part of the program I suggest she undertakes.

Jinx: Clay….good idea…thanks. No heat with clay. I have never done clay, just read about it. Do you just buy clay from somewhere?

Sos: yes, it was my first thought too. But parasites and fungus’s are pretty unbelievable for someone that has little body cleansing & alternative health knowledge. Your post will help in that.

Mikey: chickenpox or shingles….I have no experience with this, but one of those Doc’s should got that, surely?

Carol: BINGO! Yes scabies (I think.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scabies
You are the second person to say that. I asked Humaworm on curezone and that’s what RG said. Scabies! Don’t know if u know much about RG @ Humaworm, but he really knows his parasites. Big time charley he knows his bugs & fungus’s. Now you say this too. Thank you Carol, this is extremely helpful for us.


Can I ask a little more of you? Did it leave scars? How long did the treatment take to make it go away?

I am putting together a plan of action. With all the possible actions she could possibly take. Then she will decide what she is willing to do. Personally I think a parasite cleanse is essential, but that’s down to her. i'm driving up Saturday to discuss.

Thank you all very much

I had no real scarring, and what there was soon faded. However your mother lacks the elasticity and thickness of skin of a younger person, so there may be marks left behind which won't fade.
The worst thing is having a secondary infection from scratching. Applying wet cold cloths I found the best to ease really bad itching. Perhaps using one of your remedies in the water may help too.
The lumps you see are actually eggs laid under the skin, and that is why you need to treat sooner rather than later. It isn't going to go away on its own.
Keping cool is a problem, especially for an older person. You don't want hypothermia added to her problems!
Loose, light, cotton or rayon clothes next to the skin are best. (Or pure silk, if you are rich!)
Sleeping can be a problem.
It helps if you can make a "tent" of the bedding to keep the weight off her body, without risking getting cold. Pillows to the sides and at the foot of the bed will often work, but make sure she can get out of bed without injuring herself! You don't want a broken hip to deal with as well!!!!!
You will need to wash everything she has been in contact with: bedding, clothes, towels etc. Treat the mattress with whatever treatment you feel will work for mites and insects. Will help to vaccuum mattress too, but make sure there is adequate filter. Pay perticular attention to joins, seams, and binding.
Get as much stuff as possible outside.
Sunlight and fresh air are good disinfectants. Even on an overcast day, there is enough ultra-violet light to work.
Lastly, try and work out where the scabies came from.
There is a great stigma attached to scabies - "you must be a dirty person to get it" - but you can pick it up from any person who has it if you are in close contact for long periods.
You may find your Mother is absolutely horrified, and may not want anyone to know. So deal with this sensitively, please.
Good luck.
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Thanks Carol, yes, these discussions are not the easiest in the world. People are so used to just doing what the doctor tells them that talking openly about health problems is just not done in polite society. But the useless doctors couldn’t help, so we will just have to help ourselves.

My mum has a dog, so probably comes from that.

And…..what about my dad? Its likely he will have to do some treatments too……

AHHHHHHHHHH!

Not easy, not easy in the slightest.

I’m wondering if I should send her these links tonight so she can read them before I see here tomorrow? Or just do it all face to face in the morning? Tricky. Undecided.

Although I have never had scabies, every single thing that she could do to get rid of them, I have done myself, and that experience is priceless and is worth more than all the books and websites in the world.

Thank you for sharing, it is most helpful and most important.

Not sure about the dog. I think scabies is host specific, and a human problem. Not absolutely certain though.It's usually human to human contact, though possibly may be from other peoples' clothes.
Get your Dad to check every little itch for any redness, and get started on treatment ASAP.
I realise you are in your winter now, and washing all the bedding etc may be a problem, but if you can't do everything in one go, put everything into plastic bags and seal well. The scabies mite won't last long off the host, but the eggs will survive. Eggs can be transferred by scratching.
I hope you can get everyone happy and itch-free by Christmas.
Your parents may not want other people to know about this, as social attitudes are still a little out of date. Not sure of the age of your parents, but the older they are probably the greater the stigma.
Good luck.
Carol
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Wow! I just spent 5 hours with my Mum. Reading, researching, learning, deciding and formulating a plan of action for her.

We have decided that most likely it is Scabies. All the pictures look the same. All the symptoms look the same.

If its not scabies, then the treatment we have chosen will probably cover whatever it is anyway.

I did get her an OTC scabies medicine, but will not use that chemical rubbish on my lovely Mum.

She will use a topical lotion which she is making up with Tea tree oil, neem oil and oregano oil mixed into olive oil, which is as per recommended. Googling that combo brought up plenty of hits….seems that is good alternative medicinal practice!
We had to figure out what quantities to use.

Scabies should also be tackled internally to, because of the eggs and larvae. After much reading (and to my amazement) we decided to play it safe and use an anti-parasitic medicine for that.

Humaworm ordered! LOL. My mum doing a parasite cleanse! What have I done!

By the end she was wanting to do a Liver flush too…..and I was like…..one thing at a time love….

She will have to detox the house, the dog will get some treatment too. my Dad, don’t know, extremely unlikely he will get involved, but that’s out of my hands.

I also gave her a big pot of Coconut oil to start, eating with, Oil Pulling with and massaging with. Her skin has become very dry.

I must say a great big thank you to all those that replies to the post. Seeing the feedback was so important. Lots of great ideas.

Carol specifically thanks for sharing your experiences and for urging action asap. You are a star!

She was not having any of my detox baths though! Heat is too much.

It looks like my mam also has possible scabies.She is out at a party tonight but before she left she pulled up her sleeve to reveal a spotty red rash that looks very like a photo on the above site.As it's only a small patch, I will suggest she starts treatment right away.
This is a strange coincidence.
Thanks so much for all of that information.

That is indeed a strange coincidence Sunflower.

Ummmmmmm?

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Pleased I could help.
Didn't think you'd get your Dad to start treatment - older men have an attitude of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
For anyone who thinks they may have scabies, don't expect the same sympathy as if you have a cold.
For many people scabies equates with dirty people who live in slums or on the streets. They will find it difficult to consider that normally clean and hygeinic households could be affected.
It's a bit like head lice. Attitudes have changed a lot since 50 years ago. Now there is no stigma, just one of those things that happens, especially if you are around children.
I'm still not sure about the canine involvement though. . . . but I'm sure the dog will love all the extra attention!
Keep up the good work!
Carol
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A couple of months ago, I asked for a helping hand to sort out my mother. She had these strange very itchy bumps on her hand, legs, arms and various doctors had no idea what it was. Nothing worked and they had no clue and offered nothing to help. She has had them for a couple of years and the last 4 months it had become much worse, a nightmare of itchiness and unsightly bumps.

I asked here and we thought it may be scabies?

Anyway, long story short, after many hours of researching and discussing options I convinced my mother to do a round of Humaworm.

She was totally not expecting Humaworm to work.

In the mean time she eventually found a skin specialist and got a confirmed diagnosis. What she had is called “Lichen Planus.”

According to western medicine this Lichen Planus is an “incurable disease.” Yes, that means even though they know what it is…..western medicine can do nothing to help. My mum was sent home, so Humaworm(a parasite cleanse) was started.

The pictures at the top of this thread are what her hands looked like.

Mum completed Humaworm yesterday and called to give me the update.

She is overjoyed! It worked! ;-) She rated it a good 8 out of 10 as it’s not totally clearer up yet. But only 1 new bump on her toe and all the others on her arms, legs and hands have gone. She still has nasty scaring where the bumps where, but the itching has stopped. These herbs have obviously worked gloriously for her.

Big happy smiles from me and my Mum to all that helped. Convincing my Mum to do Humaworm was really hard and all your replies and help totally helped Mum be brave enough to trust me and give the parasite cleanse a go.

Thanks everyone!

That's great news SS! I am happy to hear that so called "incurable" diseases can be treated successfully with natural methods.

TW

This is just too cool!!! Congrats to your mom and hey I am so glad she tryed it. Positive results for her means she will be looking into the whole health food world more extensively. Good for her and good for you.

Mum is converted now, she has joined me and is now actively doing and trying new things to be fit and well.

Mum is real keen to do a Liver flush too for her liver spots, but I have said not yet and she needs to do a kidney cleanse first.

So next up will be a kidney cleanse! We will be using the Andreas Moritiz Kidney cleanse herbs. They are ordered and she will start the 1 month kidney cleanse soon. Just drinking a bit of herbal tea everyday….its hardly difficult!

After that maybe a liver flush, but prob try castor oil packs before because I’m getting good results from them right now.

Then in 90 days Humaworm round two will be done.

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Nice.

The liver cleanse haven't done anything for the spots on my hands. I really think they're set in pretty well from so much gardening. I don't know maybe they are a tad better but not much. Just freckles on the hands, no big deal. If she has them on her face, lemon juice is good for that. I suppose I could do the lemon egg white soak for my hands but eh, i'll be right back out playing in the yard tomorrow so why bother. I had some several years ago near my hairline from living in florida, i used some sort of spot removing very mild bleaching scrub to get rid of them it worked real good. I still have the jar with a little bit in it, i could check the brand if she were interested. Now i always wear big floppy hat outside when the summer sun is real hot, I think that really is the only way to keep them away, cover up if you like to be outside a lot.

I never get spots anywhere else, just the hands and that that one little patch near my hairline that time and i usually always get a nice sunburn on my arms or back at some point every summer.

She might want to do some light daily liver cleanses too before starting the big one. My first one... went well but I was dumping for a full week after that.

I'd make sure she did the colon cleanse too prior to a liver flush unless you already covered that with the parasite cleanse. I'm still not sure if my last bout of major constipation was from unloading so much junk with the last liver flush or maybe it was from the aloe and psyllium and not drinking enough water. Anyway, i would make sure she has that area covered.

Hi Sunshine
I am glad to hear your mom is going full force ahead...that is great news. I figured she might since she got good results with the parasite cleanse. I wish more people would try but well you know how that goes. Anyways I am very happy for your mom.

You know what sunshine, it occurred to me... Hulda recommends doing the liver flush immediately one week after the parasite cleanse. you can do a kidney cleanse just by drinking a bit of apple cider vinegar and water for a few days too.

If she waits to do the liver flush it might be too late unless she intends to do the bi-weekly big dose of black walnut hull extract to kill off hatchlings/larvae that the major cleanse missed. You should use some black walnut hull tincture in the olive oil/grapefruit juice mixture too, according to Hulda's directions. I guess in lieu of that you could eat a lot of pineapple for breakfast.

Thanks Sos, that’s interesting…..ummmmmm…..

Liver flushing is very powerful and I don’t want any problems to happen with Mum, so I will insist she does a kidney cleanse first. She is going on a 3 week cruise so there is no big rush. Before she knows it, it will be time for the second round of Humaworm then she can do the Liver flush after that if she wants to.

I liver flushed 1 week after my parasite cleanse and flushed out lots of critters.

You know when you first start out these cleanses and you get some really good success, and then you just want to try more more more….well that’s exactly where Mum is right now;-) hopefully some will rub off on Dad, ‘cause dad’s really ill. Only things I got him to do is take some probiotics and to hate me…..ho hum.