My main symptoms have been numbness/tingling, vision problems, fatigue and brain fog.

I am 8 weeks post removal and a new numbness symptom has come on during the past week, I have also felt really lousy the last few days. Is it possible to get new symptoms after the fillings have gone as I was expecting them to slowly start to disappear, not for new ones to appear!

I feel really disheartened now and set back. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I did cheat on the diet last weekend and have also changed my diet this week on Heshams advise, I am now eating mainly wholegrains, vegetables, eggs, natural yogurt, nuts and drinking water.

Before I was eating a lot of organic grain fed chicken, wild salmon, salad/veg. Hesham advised me to cut out the chicken and salmon as he thinks they may not be mercury free as my expelled air readings on his mercury vapour analyser were reasonably high last week when I went to see him. He is very kindly going to test the food for me.

Hi Mark, sorry to tell you, but this seems to be really common following last amalgam removal. So many people feel worse after the procedure.

But consider this. your system has been in a mode of trying to protect itself from the intake of mercury for years from amalgams. Apparently it does its best to store it in the safest places possible and excrete what it can. Eventually in those with poor elimination system, or weaker immunity or something else, they can eventually succumb and go under with symptoms of chronic toxicity.

When amalgams are completely removed, it's like turning off the tap. The source has 'gone", so imagine what that can do... the body no longer has a 24/7 source of mercury. For me it was almost a shock and I got worse intially, then seemed to go into a sort of remission of symptoms and then later I was hit with symptoms of repoisoning.

They were so bad, that I felt worse than the original condition and was besieged by metal toxic symptoms. This is known as the second phase of suffering by Andrew Cutler (expert in mercury). The body starts to attempt to dump it's storage of mercury now that it's no longer having to be suppressed by 24/7 amalgams.

THe process can be frightening to someone that does not know what is going on (I didn't at the time). I was so distressed that I thought of taking my own life many times, until I began to get things more under control with a better chelation protocol.

Random detox or erratic chelation methods seeked only to exacerbate my symptoms, because they did not control the movement of mercury, but rather moved it all over the place instead making an awful situation even worse.

Though after an explosion of detox hell, I would get a patch of feeling as though I had just released a load of metals and I'd feel better. But no sooner did this happen, than more mercury would dump out and so the symptoms increased again.

So, this maybe what you are experiencing. I would steer clear of seafood at this point because some people are so toxic and sensitive to even small amounts of mercury that it is hardly worth the risk to eat fish. Using a good fish oil supplement that is certified tested for mercury and other toxins, maybe the better choice.

Cheating on the diet won't help, it is a serious problem for me with the aftermarth of that alone. And treating candida is a help and sometimes a great help, but the cure to this is mercury chelation. I hope your prescribed diet helps you, but I found I required meat as well as the eggs (weston price diet) were a help. Whole grains were usually not that good for me, I had to steer clear of wheat/gluten. Gluten can make a person with mercury extremely ill and should be avoided. Also wheat is apparently treated with mercury fungicide, which might explain why I would get symptoms of mercury poisoning when I used to eat wheat....hard to say if it was that or the gluten.

So you might want to go easy on the whole grains. Are you allowed to eat lamb? Beef? Hal Huggins suggests that eggs, meat (beef etc) and butter are very good for a mercury toxic person. For reasons he does not understand, he has not yet been able to cure a vegetarian from this condition.

I am sorry you feel disheartened, but hang in there because if your body is indeed poisoned by mercury, amalgam removal alone won't usually cure you. The real cure is the body asserting itself and attempting to dump the load and with your help and proper chelation? It should do the job much better.

i have never understood how some people get better after removal, surely if the mercury starts going out of the body, your bound to feel worse.
when i had mine removed i was hoping to feel better but got worse, bed ridden in fact, and realised why, because of limited protection and mercury dumping, after yrs of it being in my body, were talking, 30yrs+.
i wish i was one of those who felt better straight away, but it wasnt to be. im nearly 2 yrs post removal.

Hi Dawn, I never understood that either. I assume people who get better right after amalgam removal and stay that way cannot have had much of a build up of mercury in their system and removing the source must have been enough....

Most of us have had the horrible "healing crisis" and one that can go on for a long time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> And yeah it does make sense for that to occur. If the body really wants to get serious about the poisoning the only way is for it to start excreting the stored poison once the source has been removed.

This does not only happen after the last amalgam is out, it happened to me after drilling out only 2 or 3 amalgams..

I had 3 major fillings left in late 2008, then drilled out 1 in september and 1 in october... a week after that... kaboooom.... hell for a year... got slowly better while practising my best own alternative medicine on myself.

However during that time.... new symptoms surfaced and went, 1 week with vertigo and dizzyness and balance problems, next week light fatigue, next week, feet to stiff to walk on, next week feet managable but stiffer back and neck, next week, headaches and kidney are stiffnes etc....... etc..... periods of shortness of breath... but atleast that one, shortness of breath i have had all life with amalgams.... so...

however... my sinuses has cleared up a lot.. or a bit... atleast they are better now... 1.5 years later... and allmost no headaches... no vertigo / balanse problems... no cooking head either which i got right after drillout, no aching jaws, better consentration, allmost no more brainfog... short term mem is good, all those things emerged after drillout in 2008...

Whats left now is, stiff back during the winter season, somewhat stiff feet (solution is cherries or cherry/apple/blueberry juice (uric acid?!)), cracking neck while twisting head, less psoriassis, stiff back, etc.... minor issues...

except a mystery cyst / swollen lymph node lump on the back / side of my neck...
which is not a minor issue as far as i know...

However.. i'm in ok health these day compare to a year ago....

And i still have one amalgam left... which as you can understand am too scared to remove YET...... because of what you now face and ask about....

I want to gain LOTS and LOTS of MORE strength before i do that last beast.


So... you see... many time i as most of us has asked ourselves... WHY...... why did i do it.... why did i decide to get rid of those amalgams.... im f***ed now... so why coulnt i just leave them alone...... but at the same time,, we think.... well.. they had to go...... they had to...... im going to get better.... this is just temporary......

and that is true.... it is..... you will get better..... just do everything you can which you know is good for you.... based on reading.. sharing experiences... and patience.. (i hate that word), and faith...

This is normal.... and i cant understand those "fake" amalgam removal stories floating around the net eaither.....

Just do this.... just to that.... and bippeti boppeti bipp... and farwell amalgams and god day sunshine...... its not like that...

i think those "personal histories" are all lies..... marketing.... sales stuff...
fake....

well.. maybe some of them are true... but there are far too many of those positive stories floating around the net.. than the hard bloody truth that we experienced..



But yes...... a body that was up to par with constant excretion while it had amalgams, may have been bettered by just removing the source.. that can be...

but there are far to many fairytale marketing happy stories floating around the net.... thats my oppinion anyway...


However.. you will get better... i myself is near my 0 point now... after having been down at the minus side..... soon i will go over the plus side.... i have in many ways already gone over to the plus side now..... but not in everyway.... YET.... i will....


So....... relax..... don't feel cheated about removal... or tricked into doing it...
You will get better!

And you will get better than what you were prior to removing them too....
It only takes a little time for most of us....


Happy healing Mark!

Btw.. i didn't know about second suffering and healing crisis either at the time of removal.... no one of those f***ing marketing "scams" told me.... or rather... told us...

This is the price we pay for an internet full of mis-info and dis-info amonst the truth-info.....

The truth is... amalgam removal is the first right step..... after that.... you know.... and after that.... hopefully a full normal life.... even better than that.... better than we can immagine..... remember when you were 5 years old Mark? You will probably end up beein as fit as you ware back then... full of energy and joy....

I'm getting there... slowly... i feel it.... now and then...... as if something is loosening now and then mentally and energywise in my head and body....

small flashes of well beein that i havent felt since i was a little boy......

strange experience this.... but good.....

Detox is the right thing to do...... continue.. and with faith and... if you can yet.... gratitude....


You are one of those LUCKY ones that first found out (amalgams), decided to get rid of them...... and proably are smart enough to research the internet, and also found a board such as this one..... i must say this is one of the better boards out there.....

So...... think of all those robot people who has no clue...... thumbles in the blind as allways.... will always continue to do too... we are not of those lost souls..... we are... the lucky ones.. the smart ones... we will prevails...
while others goes to doctors with no clue at all..

Think highly of yourself Mark.... because you are of those that are awake!


I wish you good healing Mark! Hang on.... the sun will rise!


Ole.

What kind of water are you drinking? Why do you not eat any cleansing fruits? Just wondering. Fruits have helped me alot.

Sean, what fruits exactly? And real fruits or extracts in juice form?

Some say that bananas is mostly water with sugar in it... and it feed candida...
However... others, specially arab and muslims say that bananas is a cure it all, and bananas certanly is very good for me.... so.. what to belive....

Muslims ain't stupid.... infact the halal code / laws, or jews's kosher is genious!
I wen't to an islam board some time ago... and they have a community like our here, going.... smart detoxers.. food poisoning aware people... etc....

They welcomed me with warmth over there at that board too.. as a non muslim...
And i shared what i know about the truth.... they seems good people and intelligent too.. aware i would say.. many of them....


Yeah well.. off topic....

Fruits...... carbs...... candida.. but also the other good aspects of fruits....
In my mind... fruit seems to be a two edged sword.... atleast from the conflicting stuff i have read about fruits...

However..... i belive mostly only refined sugar to be the wolf.....
I'm betting on nature i.e..... I don't know.. candida.... strictness of sugar diet..
I'm not too strict.. but psoriassis is going down, toe nail fungus is going down in me.... etc.... and i'm not too strict on sugars..... all though i have dropped refined table suger..... for honey instead.... and i eat plenty of bananas....

well......

Which fruits Sean? and in what form?

Limes in water or Lemons in the morning, Orange later on in the day! I take both daily! I have lost a ton of weight off fruits alone, like 20 pounds or so. Lemons in the morning did it mainly, in clean water.

"My main symptoms have been numbness/tingling, vision problems, fatigue and brain fog."

Those can be caused by candida, vitamin B12 deficiency, and magnesium deficiency. They also may be caused by parasites. The first thing to do is a one month parasite cleanse. Get a formula that has at least wormwood, black walnut green hull extract and cloves. a good inexpensive one is Kroeger Herb- Wormwood Combination. Two bottles are needed for a one month cleanse. Others like the Humaworm cleanse(available only at Humaworm.com).
I am in the process of doing a parasite cleanse now, as I had not done one in a while. Many here have seen parasites while doing a parasite cleanse, while others just felt better after a parasite cleanse(the herbs used are also very antifungal).


Some supplements that have helped me greatly are olive leaf extract, licorice root, magnesium malate, high dosage sublingual B12, as well as vitamin A 20,000 units a day, B vitamins 50 mg of each a day, 2 grams vitamin c a day, and calcium citrate.

An interesting article tying together mercury,fibromyalgia, CFS, and multiple chemical sensitivity. The article mentions several
supplements that may help.

http://www.flcv.com/cfsfm.html

Does the parasite cleanse cause you horrible die offs? Just wondering because I will do one soon.

"Does the parasite cleanse cause you horrible die offs? Just wondering because I will do one soon."

LOL! Yes. I am having one right now! I had been feeling quite horrible for several weeks. I just started this parasite cleanse a few days ago. I have had mild headaches since starting it. Hopefully this die off is getting rid of candida and/or parasites that have been making me feel so horrible. Some websites I have read claim that wormwood is the most potent antifungal. The one thing about wormwood though is that it can be toxic with long term use or high dosage, so you need to get a high quality cleanse, follow the dosage carefully, and don't take it for more than a month. Some websites even recommend using if for just two weeks at a time, then wait a few months before taking it again. Some of the other herbs in parasite cleanses have some toxicity in higher doses, however a lower dosage of each of these herbs in combination is less toxic than a larger dosage of just wormwood.

There are some antiparasitic herbs like garlic, cayenne pepper, black pepper, and turmeric that have virtually no toxicity even in larger dosages. I use these all the time on my food.