Gen:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep..

The earth may be only 7000 yrs old, it may be much much older, I really have no idea. That's what the bible says above about the first acts of creation concerning the earth... it was void and without form... darkness was upon the face of the deep... void and without form... the earth when it was first created was not the earth as we know it today according to the bible... the deep/// the deep what? space? possibly I guess. None of us willl ever really know in this lifetime. The earth, without form and void, could have existed for a thousand years, possibly aeons before God moved into the next act of creation, we aren't given specific dates. If you need a perfect answer on that one, you'll have to ask the only witness, God himself. All you can really get from that passage is that the matter which formed the earth existed somewhere in space.

Gen 2 ... And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

etc etc you can read the rest read of Genesis at home.


If the fossil 'record' exists now, it existed before the flood. why would anyone ask such a simple obvious question? Is the idea of pre-flood and post-flood fossilization a problem? It's the same earth.

Of course mountains like Everest existed before the flood. You are aware of Mt Ararat right?

I think a lot of extinct creatures were killed by human beings Linda. Some may have died out for other unknown reasons, lack of habitat, who knows, some may of been killed by the flood. hard to say. But, i think being killed by human beings is a top of the list item, same then as it is now.

I would prefer not to rehash these points if you don't mind, you argue the same points every day if given an opportunity. I think we all know your (non) views on those points (you love to argue endlessly) quite well by now.

I was asking ... how did Jesus raise himself from the dead?