Don't put words in my mouth Bex. I said I don't understand why all people on the world apart from 8 had to die, along with so much of the rest of the innocent life on earth. I also said that an omniscient God would have foreseen this and presumably prevented it from happening in the first place. Instead of assuming that God must be cruel, you could assume that he is not omniscient, as SoSick seems to think (she says that God makes mistakes) or that the people were really especially evil in some way unknown to us today (as Russ seems to think -- ask him to explain his angel DNA idea, I have no idea what that's all about). If creationists are anything, it is imaginative.

OK so you, like Russ, believe that Noah took insects on board the ark. Do you believe that he managed to gather up all 850,000 species; or did he have some "kinds" that later hyper-evolved into the 850,000 species we see today?

How did he get penguins on board if they were in Antarctica? How did he get the dodo on board if it was isolated on an island? It would be difficult to see how these species could have been living near Noah. Emperor penguins, for example, need a cold climate in which to live. Dodos were highly vulnerable to predators that did not exist on the islands on which they evolved. And where did Noah get food like bamboo for the pandas? Why did the koalas go to Australia after the flood was over, and nowhere else -- and how did they get there?

We can talk later about the logistical problems of the ark itself. There is a limit to how big you can build a wooden ship before the timbers pull apart from the sheer weight, which is why people started building them out of metal as soon as they learned how.

You seem to be referring back to abiogenesis at the end of your post. It neither proves nor disproves evolution in and of itself. Remember, also, that as far as my personal views go, I said I found it plausible -- possible. That doesn't mean I "believe" in it, and I also do not see why the only other alternative has to be creation by God. There's plenty of evidence for evolution and an old earth, very little for how life actually started. That's what makes it such a fascinating subject for study.

I have been waiting for people to answer various questions I have posted, before I go on to post more. In order for the YEC model to be a viable one that can compete with old earth and evolution, it needs to be able to explain the evidence. I'll summarise:

Why is there no evidence for a global flood in sea floor samples or ice cores?

Why is there no evidence of a genetic bottleneck that affected all living species at the same time in the past?

Why are creationists getting their facts wrong, i.e. about the reasons why starlight reaching us appears to be so old, and ambulocetus fossils? Why do they quote mine scientists? I gave an example of that here and I could follow it up with many others.

How are absolute dating methods in error? I refer to radioisotope dating, paleomagnetic dating, and thermo-luminescence dating.

If there was a global flood, how can you explain the fact that fossils are sorted in a specific order all over the world? Why are there no dinosaur fossils mixed with mammal fossils?

What were the "fountains of the deep" and what is the model for where they came from, what they did, and where they went afterward? I've heard different sketchy ideas from everyone here but I have seen no real attempt at a clear explanation.

What is the evidence that species like homo erectus and homo habilis were "just apes" and neanderthals were humans? This is not what genetics tells us -- see the post I gave from the online genetics encyclopedia about population bottlenecks.

Why are there seashells not only on the tops of (some, not all) mountains, but inside them as well -- stratified in lithified sedimentary rock? How did they get up there during the flood? All the clam fossils are more than a year old, and some are 20-30 years old. How did they get shifted thousands of miles up, and why were they deposited on the mountains and not evenly in the valleys as well? If you say that the water was turbulent enough to do this, what is the geological model that explains how this happened? This would have mixed the salt water with the fresh leaving no pockets of fresh water for freshwater fish; and the mud stirred up would have been a problem as well. There are other potential problems but I'll wait to hear about what people think the fountains of the deep were before I ask more questions on this.

I thought this would be enough for people to be getting on with. If no answers are forthcoming though, I will assume that no one here is able to offer them and I will move on to a new set of questions.