OK So Sick, to you a true Christian is someone who thinks that the Bible is literal, word-for-word fact. We're clear on that at least, though it means that millions of people in the world who believe in God, Jesus and the Bible -- thinking that maybe more than one interpretation of it may exist -- are wrong. Clear on that too.

The reality I observe is that the earth is old and that life has lived and evolved on it. I wouldn't define that as a narrow world view exactly, just a description of the evidence in it, but if you want to disagree that's of course your prerogative.

Archaeologists do not assume timelines. There are many different ways of dating a site and a find and no scientist uses just one. If you don't know what they are then I can link to some sites, or you could try having a look at some archaeology books. People here keep asking me "where's the evidence," though I've given plenty in various places on this forum. I am not here to provide a science curriculum or to write a library of information, though I'm more than happy to point you toward anything that's relevant, if you are willing to look at it before you decide it's all lies.

You are still equating evolution with atheism. This only fits your view if millions of so-called Christians in the world are not Christians at all because they do not think that every world in the Bible is literal fact. You seem to want to characterise me as someone who hates God and the Bible. I simply do not accept them as they are in Christianity as part of my personal belief system, though there is much to be learned from them and much truth in them. This is different from hatred and hostility. What I really have no truck with is where these beliefs are promoted in spite of the reality that looks us in the face every day.

Rocks move and shift and erode yes, but at different rates. There are some rocks that are still billions of years old because by happy chance they have not been eroded, subducted, metamorphosed, etc. These processes are not happening actively to all the rocks in the world all the time. Some are simply in geologically inactive places, under the earth where they are not being eroded, just moving a few centimeters every year as the tectonic plates shift.

My husband is not in the business of faking pictures but we both use Photoshop. Why do you think there has to be a seam in a fake photo? You can do all kinds of fantastic things digitally with photos and make them look real. You can also set your subject up however you want when photographing, in order to achieve a certain effect. Photos of anything are simply not enough proof in themselves, though they can lend weight to a larger body of evidence.

Finally, I didn't expect to have to do this, but I'm going to explain as clearly as possible what forum and debate etiquette are about. In a debate I will shoot down evidence that is erroneous. If I'm feeling particularly frustrated I might do something like call Hovind a stupid idiot. He has a lot to answer for and he's a snake oil salesman with fake credentials. I make no comments about people who choose, for whatever reasons, to agree with what he says. I have also made no personal comments to you though believe me you've given me more ammo than I could fill a whole arsenal with. Why? Because I am here to debate ideas, not to tear people down and take cheap shots at them. What is a cheap shot? Using personal knowledge you gained about me from the mercury forum and continually presenting it here as "evidence" that I'm crazy. If you seriously can't understand why someone might object to you throwing their history of psych med use publicly in their face and telling them they're a fruit loop, then I don't know what to say, I'd expect most people to have got the point by now. The sorts of things you've been saying to me would have got you thrown off every other forum I know of. Go join some and try talking to people there in the same way, maybe you will learn something.

Finally, I have been calling you SS because it is an abbreviation, no other reason. I don't understand why that is being taken as an insult but if you prefer not to be addressed in that way then all you need to do is say so.