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Joined: Jul 2007
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Just to throw in my own two cents here..
Evolution does not equate atheism. Heck! Atheism existed before evolution had even been discovered, so they're definitely not one in the same. Not only are they not the same, but lumping them together in one category is so far removed from the truth as to be ridiculous.
Good job engaging in a codial debate, Bex! I mean it. It's a surprising change from the norm here, where posts can get deleted simply for not bowing down to Christian supremacy or where flames get permitted so long as you are a Christian supremist. I may not agree with what you're saying on the subject, but I respect you immensely for your ability to actually have a debate and still be human about it.
I don't know about this Flew fellow so I have to stay out of this part of the debate, but I will add the following.
There's a trend here amongst the Fundamentalist Christians to turn the accusations aimed at them back onto their adversaries - by calling evolution a religion. This couldn't be further from the truth. As I've stated in another thread, evolution (even if it's completely incorrect) is a pretty boring explanation as to how we got here. Nobody believes it because they have a yearning desire for it to be true. They believe it because - again, whether it's true or completely false - it makes logical sense to them. Conversely, Christianity offers hope, salvation and eternal life. Even if Christianity is true, the vast majority of people who believe in it will only do so for emotional reasons, not because they've "done their homework" (to quote an exorbitantly overused expression by another poster here.)
For this reason, it would behoove posters wishing to defend creation arguments not to continually accost evolutionists with the "You only believe it because you want to" phrase. No evolutionist would cling to their ideals because they stubbornly just want it to be true so badly. It's a boring explanation (despite that it's the best one currently available.) It's also impossible to be a religion because it's a scientific model. Even if gravity were disproved tomorrow, nobody who currently accepts it does so out of a yearning, emotional desire, out of a need for it to be true. They do so because to them it makes sense. Besides, it's not like there are Gravity Disciples or some Priesthood to the Almighty Theory of Gravitation. This is because science has nothing whatsoever to do with religion, science is not religion therefore evolution (EVEN IF IT IS WRONG) is in no way a religious concept.
So if you want to refute evolution, fantastic. Knock yourself out. Just use rational arguments toward that endeavor. Saying evolution is a religion only discredits yourself and weakens your own argument.
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