can anyone help me i had cavitational surgery last week and soon after i got flu and i noticed a lump at the side of my jaw so i think its infected i also have this awful taste in my mouth much worse than it was before surgery i can almost taste the dry rot its making me very nausea will i have to take antibiotics for this infection ? and does this mean the surgery hasnt worked.

clare

have you tried warm salt water rinses ? I used them after tooth extractions and seemed to help , how is the pain level , if you don't feel any throbbing in the surgury area then I may be just some resisdule food in the area , throbbing usually means infection of some type

Hi, I would get in touch with the dentist first of all, but it sounds like the muck from the cavitation has been stirred up from being removed and possibly making you very sick. I've heard of this before happening.

But get in touch with the dentist and have it looked at and see if he can do more for you and advise in case you need antibiotics.

IMagine how much garbage is in a cavitation and what happens when it's shifted and removed. I've heard of people getting very sick from the toxins released by it. But if he's done a good enough job? It should settle and things should get better.

Put hydrogen peroxide on it immediately. It'll hurt but do it.

My best friends son-in law is in the hospital with a hospital acquired flesh eating staph infection... in his face... and the symptoms sound a lot like that, especially the flu like symptoms.

This kid is only 23 years old, with a brand new baby son, and he was absolutely beautiful, stunning good looks, and now he may lose half his face.

Keep it really clean and get yourself an INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST asap. Dentists are real morons when it comes to infections. Wasting your time with a dentist when you have an infection may cost you dearly. Take a look at it in the mirror if possible, and if you see any black color or blue/purple run as fast as you can to the nearest specialist.

Wow, sosick that is horrible! Thanks for informing us about this, I had NO idea it could be possible to get so serious. I agree, go for the hydrogen peroxide, heard of that being used often for such problems.

How sad that a dentist might not be much help, when they did this in the first place. Should be their job to fix it, but as always it seems to be the patient who suffers and has to rectify it all.

I think I am going to be sick again. Very heartsick. I don't know whether to be sad or angry.

These <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/censored.gif" alt="" /> doctors and dentists.

This is real serious and it seems to be going around and spreading rapidly, not just here, everywhere, USA, UK... an acquaintance of mine, not someone I know well, also has a son in the hospital with it and so far he has lost his hand and they have cut halfway up his arm trying to stop the thing. That kid got it playing football, a cut on his hand from a spike. Thing is the football coach lives 250 yards from me too.

I have been cleaning this house so hard all weekend and I have a hydrogen peroxide soap mixture near the sink that we'll be using daily. I have been spending my afternoon the past couple days washing everything down with ammonia, my kidneys are aching.

The mouth infections may actually be some sort of strep that turn into essentially the same thing. I'm not sure. The baby has strep from somewhere too, the baby! But that's how it starts, flu like symptoms, a bump... it's not really flu though, its real nasty infection.

I will say with no reservations whatsoever, stay away from doctors, stay away from dentists. Their offices and their equipment may be loaded with this bug. All it takes is one little cut for it to get started.

keep hydrogen peroxide on hand always. If you get a cut clean it right away with that and keep it clean.

It was one year ago this month that my dental nightmares began. Just a note.

Ok - you guys are freaking me out here...

I just saw my biologic dentist this morning as I have a molar that has been hurting all weekend. I thought part of my filling came off and just needs to be redone - not. The dang tooth cracked right in half and now I have to have it extracted on Wednesday. I have had a headache since Sunday night.

Any advise or suggestions to prepare and afterwards? I am scared about getting a cavitation from this.

Also, when they took the x-ray to confirm the crack, they said that the tooth roots are right next to my sinus cavities and it can pose a problem - ie: be on antibiotics afterwards.

Thanks, Teri

thnx everyone for the replys i have no bruising at all and didnt even after the surgery so maybe thats a good sign its just a little lump with a bit of pain but iv always had pain there anyway cause of the cavitations so who knows.

clare.

Hi Teri, make sure you request a local anaesthetic without a vaso constrictor (they restrict blood flow and can increase the chances of a cavitation becaue of that).

And ask that the periodontal ligament be removed as well as the tooth. Anything to cut down the risks of a cavitation forming is helpful.

Plus, diet is very important for healing, proteins (eggs, meats), fats (butter), vegetables, nuts/seeds, all these things will help bone healing. To help aid your body against infection and if you can handle it, garlic may also help (natural antibiotic) and vitamin C (but do NOT take vitamin C 24 - 48 hours before an anaesthetic, or it will erase the effects and you will feel pain). Other than that, take the vitamin C.

cod liver oil is also wonderful, but get a brand that is free of mercury (blue ice for example).

Don't need to go overboard, but some simple things like this can all help. And I would also do what sosick suggests and use the hydrogen peroxide too and do the salt water rinses for the mouth. If they insist you be on antibiotics, well that's up to you, but if so, I would take probiotics to replace the good bacteria! 2 hours before or after antibiotics. Take a lot of it too during the process and possibly for a few weeks following to make sure you replace any bacteria that was wiped out.

Just some tips, I wish there were ideal answers.

Thank you Bex - that helps a lot!

I am not much of a poster as you can see, but I am on here daily reading and I just want to thank you for all that you do contribute.

Just a little about myself- I had all eight of my amalgams taken out in February. My dentist donated all of it - yes I was very blessed!
I am a single mom of 3 and could no way afford to do this on my own. I haven't started to detox yet as I have been working on and off with getting the bowels working, then I will do a liver detox and then start hitting at the mercury. I cant wait to get rid of all of it - someday. And someday it will be nice to reclaim my life, like my mind and maybe grow my hair back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks again, Teri

Hi Teri, you're very welcome! You could also add calcium/magnesium to the list, as it may aid bone healing...the vitamin D in cod liver oil is really good for this too.

I have overly thick hair, I wish I could pass some of it onto you. But if its any consolation, I had a time during mercury poisoning where my hair became thin and the only reason I think it wasn't worse was because I have naturally too much hair anyway.

The candida diet I went on enabled the hair to come back to normal, but it took a little while. The underlying problem however had to be dealt with (mercury).

So I really hope your hair will also come back to being fuller and hopefully it will when your body begins to absorb nutrients again. The candida diet with the proteins and fats, really does help healing.

Hi Bex,

I "had" overly thick hair too, but the thing of it is is I have lost over 60% of it and to top it all off it is just past my waist! So it is going to take years to get it back...
I cant even get myself to do the candita diet. How do you get to the point of disaplinning yourself to eat like that when all I crave is the bad stuff?

Today was not fun - 2 hours to get the dang thing out :-(

Hi Teri, truly it doesn't take long for the thickness to come back. For me it was odd, it just seemed to happen at some point...kind of crept up on me. I just suddenly thought omg, my hair is back to normal... I couldn't quite understand it because hair has to "grow" so it was astonishing.

But yes, the diet is what brought it back for me. I know I was mercury poisoned though, but obviously I had yeast as well and everything combined was stuffing so many body systems up, my hair just went thin.

I was a sugarholic, so I know exactly what you mean and I was the LAST person you could imagine ever going on a diet like this. But frankly, NOTHING else worked and I was desperate watching myself bloated, with thin hair and depression and many other problems.

I tried antidepressants and homeopathy, herbs etc and NONE of them did a thing to aid me in the long term. So finally I was told by a doctor to get on a candida diet and believe me, at first it was too weird that I didn't want to do it. I kept cheating and stuffing around on the diet.

Finally I went cold turkey and the cravings I intially went through just about drove me nuts (which was a clear indicator that I had big toxic issues and yeast). I cried, and paced the kitchen craving the very things that were causing me to stay sick. I was off all sugar, wheat/gluten. But at that time was still having limited fruit (which I can't have these days). But I only had about 2 pieces a day then. I also had some gluten free grain then too. But mainly just ate meat, vegetables, eggs, etc.

I then developed some detox headaches and discomforting symptoms and it took about two weeks at that stage for things to improve. The change at the end of those two weeks was miraculous. My skin, hair, appearance had altered and improved to such an extent that you'd hardly believe I was the same person.

My skin became smooth and transluecent, hair looked healthier and was already looking thicker, eyes sparkled, I felt so much better and depression lifted immensely, anxiety lessened and many mental symptoms had abated. This was from diet alone and nothing else.

So yeast and other problems most definitely cause many symptoms in association with mercury or other illnesses. The very fact you would find it so hard to do a diet like this, indicates you may have a real problem as I did. The harder it is, the more symptoms you get with the withdrawal, the more you actually need to do it.

Anybody can if I can and eventually you get so used to it, that it doesn't seem odd anymore and you never want to go back to feeling that way again.

I wish I could gain those improvements these days, but thanks to virus and other infections from other dental work, I am not quite so lucky. So if you want to give the diet a go? Just know that you're not alone! And the cravings can at first feel quite overwhelming because the yeast etc are wanting the bad food and you're literally starving them to death. They do NOT like that and will send out every signal they can to get you to succumb. I fought it and refused to give in. At first I did slip up from time to time, but eventually realised that the slip ups were not worth it. I had to do it completely.

Hi Teri


Thats excellent! well done and good luck! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />

Thank you Bex for the explanation on changing my diet.
I am just going to have to really get in the mind set and just do it!
After the holidays though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

A quick question... Is it normal to have an ongoing headache after a tooth extraction? This is frustrating as I am not one to get headaches. It wouldn't be a sign that I have an infection would it be?

Thank you sunshine for the well wishes - same to you!

Teri

Hi Teri, you're welcome. I hope you do give the diet a try. I know that for me and others it is essential to even control some symptoms.

I'm sorry for your ongoing headache! I don't know what that could be..Perhaps it is a reaction to the procedure like the nerves being upset by the extraction, hence the headaches and/or the anaesthesia.

I hope that it goes soon and isn't indicative of anything else more seroius. I wish I knew what it could be. I know some people can get worse after invasive dental procedures and take time to recover from it. but here's hoping it is nothing more than that.