My responses to Linda.

I was hoping we'd stay focused, but you asked a myriad of questions that are all over the place, so please don't blame me for it in the future Linda. I'm only responding to your post.



These posts...

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Great. So hopefully we won't have to go around and around in this circle anymore.



No you haven't.

The explanation about signaling molecules has no bearing on symmetry. This is easy to see but again, you have been sucked in by a junk-science argument.



Linda, you seem to have an unending faith in the integrity and intelligence of scientists.

Here are a number of reasons we need to think for ourselves and not blindly accept what so-called experts say. This is important advice so please listen carefully.

(1) The Tomato Effect

(2) Foot x-rays at shoe shops in the 50's

(3) The Nutrasweet coverup (involving a $30,000 bribe and tests on phenylalanine)

(4) Piltdown man

(5) The junk science related to global warming

(6) The deceptive ephedra hearings and subsequent ban (Ephedra Fact and Fiction: How Polit... Rights to Vitamins, Minerals, and Herbs)

(7) Amalgam fillings. The medical literature shows they leech mercury and are dangerous to one's health, but if you sat this to most any dentist, you will end up getting a lecture. I have a number of friends who have been hollered at by dentists simply for suggesting that amalgams may be harmful (as the medical literature says). I've been sharply rebuked and even called names on dental forums for suggesting the same, yet these dentists are "highly-trained", and yes some equally-trained dentists will sharply disagree with their colleagues.

(8) The Government Always Tells the Truth (just for kicks)

I could go on and on but I certainly hope you get the point.

The fundamental idea that you miss about symmetry is this:

If evolution were not a myth, then all fossils would represent transitional forms. Yes, indeed—all fossils represent nothing more than a transition from one form to another.

This being the case, then [color:"brown"]how can nearly all fossils have perfect, complex, frankly overwhelming symmetry if they are indeed only transitional forms?[/color]

Linda, just think about this for a minute. It is a very revealing and telling fact that escapes you just as the tomato effect represents a blindly-accepted lie that endured for many decades.

Symmetry is simply not possible in the myth of evolution. Mutations don't create symmetry. They create moles and cancers.

Please think about this carefully.



Linda, if symmetry is so well explained by signaling molecules, then why do we need another theory for it?

The answer: Simply because honest (with themselves) scientists know that symmetry cannot be explained with signaling molecules.

Also, think about this

Isn't it interesting how these theories that attempt to explain creation continue to "evolve" towards multidimensionalism. Of course, the Bible predicted this thousands of years ago.



Really? And why do you think that is.

According to your logic, all the scientists should agree, but you see Linda, they don't, and my world view—that you continually make fun of—perfectly explains why they don't. This is also perfectly in line with what the Bible predicts in the end time scenario.



It is my opinion that the Bible was written by God through men, and then it was translated by men. There are a few books in the Bible that may be exceptions to this, such as the book of Ecclesiastes and the Song of Soloman, which were penned by Soloman and may-or-may-not have been divinely inspired, although they probably are, but I'm not sure about this until I do more study. Nevertheless, they are highly symbolic and intelligent with multiple layers of information... very interesting and educational indeed.

The translation process introduced a few errors here and there which are easily reconcilable by duplicate texts, however, God is the author which explains gematria and prophecy, which are impossible without an external intelligence.

As a side note, I believe the Old and New Testaments were penned with a different kind of Godly inducement because the situation changed, but the result is the same.

You cannot explain Biblical gematria (numerological perfection) and prophecy (predicting the future) in any other way than by an external super-Intelligence.

Finally, despite my desire to delve off the subject, I will answer your queries about the Bible.

Remember, this website you are quoting has been created by a rank amateur that either knows nothing about the Bible or simply desires to create controversy.


GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.

Vengeance is necessary where evil exists.

Do you believe rapists should be punished?

Do you believe murderers should be punished?

This is what God does. He takes vengeance on the wicked (those committing horrible crimes) for the sake of the innocent.

Simple.

EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.

This means different things depending on the context.

For one, it means the same as the previous quote, that God consumes those who destroy the lives of others. This is justice. It means that he is a warrior against those who kill, steal from, and destroy others.

It also means that He—as the consuming fire—purifies us just as fire purifies metal. This is another simple concept that can be gotten from the Book itself, if the author of this website had an ounce of integrity.

EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.

God is jealous for our love as we should be for the love of our spouse. God goes to great lengths to express His love, even to the point of death.

"Greater love has no one than this, that someone lays down his life for his friends."
—John 15:13

LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.

This is a misrepresentation, but then again, what should I expect from a website like the one you linked to.

Murder and killing are two completely different things, and there are a few mistranslations that confuse people.

Murder is illegal and against the law. God never murders. Murder is the taking of a human life when there is no legal justification for it.

Killing is what God does when He is taking vengeance for evils done by a party—when there is legal justification for it. God hates injustice and He will take action when the evils become worthy of it.

God has been wonderful to me but he does not hesitate to give me a swift loving kick when it is for my own good. I end of thanking Him for it.

"Every branch of mine that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit."
—John 15:2

2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."

These are poetic writings to explain God response to evil. Don't be confused by them. They are not to be taken literally (obviously).

EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."

Another symbolism for God response to rapists and murderers. People like this deserve to be punished.

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

Here is a link that explains these misunderstandings.

Again, if the author of this website had done any research at all, he would not have bothered to post these, but in all likelihood, he hates the Bible for personal reasons and is just bashing it to make himself feel better.

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/abebirth.html

GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

Again, these are the posting of a rank amateur, and your willingness to post them and raise them as "valid" questions demonstrates that you have no knowledge of the Bible, yet you clearly have disdain for it.

[color:"brown"]When someone had disdain for that which they know nothing about, there is a severe bias involved.[/color]

Know thyself.

Here is what is being said which can be easily discovered with a little study.

God does not directly tempt people. He allows the tempter to do that. In fact, this is the job of evil (which I posted in a previous thread pertaining to the purpose of those who hate God); It is their job to test and tempt people.

People get all caught up in the semantics of the wording, but being dumbed down on MSG, mercury, and other excitotoxins, it's easy understand why people may have a hard time.

Think of it this way.

I write computer programs. When I run a program that I wrote that removes spyware from a computer, I will be inclined to say, "I removed all the spyware from your computer".

Technically, I didn't remove all the spyware from the computer, I just ran the program which actually did the work.

In the same way, when God tempts someone, He is not doing the tempting directly. He only allows evil that was created by Him ( as good that turned evil) to do the dirty work, and the key is, this evil is done by the free will of the one doing the direct tempting.

Don't get confused by this as this point is summed up in this:

"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."
—Romans 8:28

The Bible does not say that all things are good. He says that all things work together for good. There is a significant difference.

The bottom line is this: Even though evil has free will and does what it wants, ultimately good will occur and prevail.

See, not too complicated.

EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.

This is simple.

The Egyptians gave the spoil to Israel of their own freewill. It was a "voluntary" plunder and a symbol for events of the future, but more on that another time.

Again, you're being sucked in by someone who is not being honest with you. Please realize this.



Once again, these are not inconsistencies at all. They are only a symbol of:

(1) Your eager willingness to believe in fairy tails and myths, and

(2) Your refusal to take on any serious study of the Bible, obviously for your own personal purposes or agenda.

Linda,

On both the evolution myth and the Biblical arguments, you are on the wrong side of the fence.

I would strongly encourage you to read the book entitled: Number in Scripture by Bullinger as a starting point to understanding the integrity of the Bible.

I would also view some of the following links to help in understanding both the way the world really works and what the Bible really says.

Please take the time to watch them.

If you have trouble viewing them, just let them run with the volume down for a few minutes while they load (you can do other things on your computer during this time), then rewind them and they will play perfectly.

The Sons of God and Biblical Prophecy, Michael Heiser

The Bar Code and the Mark of the Beast

Our Solor System

The Government Always Tells the Truth