I'm beginning to think that I've said all I can here because all we're really doing is repeating the same things to each other, and I don't suppose either of us is going to shift. You have said nothing to me here that I haven't heard elsewhere.
I think you were beginning to think what you're thinking some time ago.
Also, I'm not expecting you to shift. This only takes place through one of the human motivators:
fear and
love. Therefore, change will probably only come into your life through one of these. Unfortunately, most people wait for fear to motivate them rather than reaching out (searching diligently) for truth in (driven by) love.
You were wanting some hint that I "believe" rocks can turn into humans. This is a strawman.
I have never been so often accused of making strawman arguments than by you. In all honestly and with all due respect, I'm really doubting if you know what the concept really means.
Nevertheless, the reason humans become so confused when doing research or simply learning things is that
they so quickly forget fundamentals. This is what the psudoscience promoted by evolution marketers is designed to do, namely, to
get you so distracted that you forget fundamentals, just as you have done.
In asking you about rocks (inorganic material) turning into single cell organisms, I am asking you about your belief system. I remind you that it took 3 repetitions of this question before I got an answer out of you and I know why. Because you know where this line of questioning is going (as I said in my response above).
When people really begin to boil down the fat (smoke and mirrors) surrounding what evolutionary "psudoscience" is asking people to believe, it becomes clear how positively ridiculous it really is. Chemical evolution really does believe that rock soup turns into highly complex machines (cells). There's just no way around that.
Remember, explore all you want. Just don't forget the fundamentals or you may be quickly taken advantage of by someone with their hand in your pocketbook.
I said I think it is possible that organic molecules can begin to replicate.
Again, you have no idea what you're believing. Wow.
This is not fantastic complexity but the very most basic beginning of what could be described as life.
You're so completely wrong. It is fantastically complex, so much so that we still don't understand the vast majority of it!
Honestly, you're completely off base on this point.
You're simplifying these things that you don't understand because you're trying to justify you're own preference for a belief system. This is the only reasonable logical conclusion and hence why I say that looking at truth will force you to look at yourself.
This is one of the things I've been saying to you all along. Because you have no realization of the complexity involved, you find such functions as reproduction vastly simpler than they really are.
I once heard a biologists say that he was offended when people used the term "simple single cell organism" because there is no such thing as a simple cell.
Well said.I have no paradigm of a creation myth or a religion set in my mind as in stone which requires me to reject certain things because they threaten that paradigm.
Neither do I.
Are you insinuating a strawman by saying I do this?I have already told you that I don't believe what I believe without evidence. I believe it
because of evidence.
You have done this subtle strawman accusation frequently in the past and I have not called you on it. Just so the onlooker knows that I have not been unaware of it.
The remainder of your post sounds really nice and politically correct in that you are maintaining an open mind—as do I. The only problem is that you are not dealing with the issues I raised.
Linda, the rules of chemistry do not facilitate the self-assembly of molecules into cells, much less complex, symmetrical, self-replicating life forms. Any claim of this sort has never been observed and is therefore
only based on faith and is therefore
only a religion.
The true difference between your religion and my belief system is that there is ample evidence to support mine. Here are some fundamental examples that don't even get into the deeper stuff:
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Archeology: Evidence for the Bible[/color]
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The Authenticity of the Bible[/color]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VgmIFFtEMsE