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I dont want to upset anybody with this observation, but it seems to me during my reading of post after post in this forum that two things are apparent.
1. People have health issues that correctly, or incorrectly, they want to blame it on mercury and candida.

2. I have yet to see a definitive list of symptoms. Some sporadic ones yes, but does anyone have a true medically proven list? Id very much like to know, or get a link to those for my own knowledge.

Personally my story is that I have had random bad palpitations(pvc's I think), bad GERD, tremors/muscle spasms, and constant anxiety with panic attacks (the anxiety seems to be a chicken or the egg type thing with the palpitations).

Ive had numerous medical tests and settled for Xanax to calm the anxiety and a modified diet for the GERD. Because I think wetern medicine treats symptoms more often than the causes, I kept searching for an answer... and since everything kept pointing back to symptoms of low magnesium, or a thyroid disorder, I somehow found this forum and the mercury issue.

Dont get me wrong, Im ALL for this forum, and because of it I just yesterday spent $500 on having my amalgam fillings all replaced. But does anyone have a concrete list of symptoms of toxicity? or at least a list based on lots of solid empirical evidence?

You know how it is when you try something for your condition, whatever it may be, only to meet another dead end, and then you feel down about it. I guess Im looking for links or comments about more tangible objective data and less of the subjective non-specific sort of discussion. I want to know Im going in the right direction with this suspicion of mercury.

As an example,I just read an old post about mercury causing low blood volume which then causes adrenal gland issues.
It was just a random post, and got me to think ...what about if that exact problem was 10% of the problem that people have here, as an example? That would be 10% of the people who could be confident they were headed in the right direction.
I just am hoping someone has a comprehensive list of symptoms and the mechanism for how those symptoms occur, or if not, we should all work on making one thats either medically sound, or at least that overwhelming empirical data supports.

Thanks for reading and sorry for the long post.

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No problem for long post. The more questions asked the better. The reason WE are so funked up because WE didn’t ask enough questions until it too late. (That WE includes you too buddy)

“have yet to see a definitive list of symptoms. Some sporadic ones yes, but does anyone have a true medically proven list? Id very much like to know, or get a link to those for my own knowledge” – yes. But the answer is not just a simple click away. A quick look at some website, a 5 minute read. Wam-bam-thank-you-mam. Mercury illness is not straight forward or simple.

If you purchase Andy Cutlers book “amalgam illness” he answers all your questions u just asked, and maybe more questions that will be coming from you, the more you read/learn/educate. Unfortunately there are very few “doctors” out there to help people like you and me. The more you read the more you will now why. But the only way I’m going to get better is to educate myself on these things. No doctors gonna come to my rescue.

Mercury does not just go to one place at a time. It does not target one organ. Or two organs. It affects them all. Heart disease affects the heart. Tumors affect whatever they grow on. Cancer whatever it grows on, so it easy for medical science focus in on that one thing. Ohhh a tumor…lets cut it out.

Mercury poisoning is a ROOT cause to many many different illness’s because all those little bits of mercury go everywhere in your body. Little by little each organ fills up with mercury gradually over the years. All the time stopping each organ from functioning correctly. When one organ really is in bad shape this then causes knock on effects to other organs causing other symptoms that seem to have no relation to mercury. Which is why mercury causes so many differnt things.

The parts that are affected first are the detoxing parts of you. The parts that clean you, the liver and the kidneys, bowels, intestines. And once they don’t work correctly, everything else get stressed and starts working over time, then fails too.

And then there is mercury on the brain too. nasty really.

“true medically proven list” – all I can say is read the mercury books mate. Hal huggins, cutler, breiner…whatever.

Now….you wanted a list……one moment………searching…..

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZG...amp;sig=qWAMx7BV_QzOovg6yyU2fLEd8FE#PPP1,M1

yes…..if u go to the top of the page. The front cover even.

I think some pages are missed out from that book, so u will need to buy it.

Then shoot down to page 55-56-57 which will enable you to self diagnose if you have mercury poisoning. Unfort pages 58-59-60 are not printed, which explains how to understand the results so you will need to buy the book.

I probably could have just posted the link…..oh well


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Sunshine - thanks for the reply. My post was a bit of frustration. Frustration over the endless dead ends, the endless letdowns looking for answers etc. Thats why the tone is a bit confrontational and analytical.

That being said, perhaps I ought to buy Cutlers book. The truth is that I have spent money on so many things over the years, you tend to get a little jaded about things. Im sure you can understand that yourself.

you make a good point about mercury being a possible ROOT to many problems, therefore not easy to pick out a list of symptoms of toxicity.

Thanks for your reply...I appreciated it very much.

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I would say that mercury causes emotional disturbances. There is a lot of scientific evidence to support this.

Emtional disturbances can be a lot of different things:

mood swings, depression, insecurity, shyness, agression, paranoia, low self esteem etc.

I am sure there are hundreds of different symptoms.


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Hey IG 06:

Sunshine and BG have good posts. I know how you feel about the frustrating search for answers, and how you can drop money on all kinds of stuff - some of which you say to yourself later, "Ooops, we could have skipped that one. What a waste of $."

So, that said, I bought Cutler and Huggin's book and never regretted it. I bought a bunch of others too, but you would do very well with just those alone. When I first got it, I read Cutler's book over and over - it was amazing to me that this guy was describing my symptoms to a "T"!

For my first 40 years on earth, I don't ever remember feeling anything but calm and normal most the time. But, at some point, I believe when I hit toxic overload, a different feeling crept in, a feeling of unrightness, a kind of feeling of anxiety and with the weird triggers of grocery stores, or places with long halls, flourescent lighting, sensory overload from too many products on the shelves, whatever, I felt like I could fall over dead. I believe it had something to do with balance, and I researched vestibular disorders. I still feel mercury can affect your sense of balance, and with that can leave you in a state of anxiety just because it is such a critical function to the body.

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Hi I was new to the forum and hese people know there stuff about mercury and we all will help the best we can everyone has differant symptoms here is my first post:

I am going through the process of my teeth being pulled due to mercury and I had 9 out with 5 to go.I am wondering if the removal is making me worse. my dentist said we'll detox after there all removed is that what is supposed to be done? I have been sick for 2 yrs from my teeth....I was a very active mom and was starting my own business and had just got married my nightmare began...I had insurance for the first timeSo i got dental work done .21 fillings in 1 month time 2 days after the last fillings I had a headache my face drooped i couldn't talk...The hosp. did a catscan and deemed it a migrain to make along story short I spent 1000's on doctors telling me its in my head to ms.I argued that i was fine until I had my teeth done.I could walk with out felling like i was going to fall or pass out.I got scared so i did research on ms and came upon a sight called DAMS 3 months ago.I since have had some teeth extracted and have four more to go.I have know ideal what to do as far as detoxing?Also my symptoms include dizziness,muscle tremors,feeling like crap,burning over my body,throat spasms along with the body,head aches,palpatations,etc, I by passed the doctors and found a homeopathic dentist should i find a doc also?

Since then I have gotton such good advise and its very therapeutic great for anxiety.

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Hi melissa:

I just reread your post. It did not strike me before, but 21 silver fillings in one month? Holy Canolies! Good God, they let you have it!
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That's awful, but it sounds like you are also on the right track to health now. I see you know what it feels like to be walking around like you could pass out or fall down too. I hated that sensation. I hope you just get better and better!
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Hi tumbleweed
Since I got some out my dizziness has gotten alittle better but the flourescent lights still kill me in the grocery stores and gas stations.
I hope that you get better too.
I hope the meeting with congress on the 14th will shed some light.

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Hi, I dont think it's a case of wanting to blame candida and mercury on everything, but most people here have already been through years of searching and coming up with nothing.

Both these problems at the very least seem to have the symptoms that many of us can relate to (at long last) and treating both/either seems to have made some difference for many people. May not have been a cure, but there must be something to it if applying the diet, going through the die off symptoms in starving overgrowth of yeast and then finding improvements after weeks.....therefore for me that was pretty much obvious.

As for the mercury? My symptoms were identical with it. Down to the most bizzare. Removing amalgams was horrible in the end because I was poisoned worse during removal, from swallowing amalgam. Plus my body began to dump the storage.

That in itself was indicative that mercury was a big part of my life and problems. The detox in itself was tremendous, horrible and all the poison that had sat there for years started to shift and come out of me.

The fact that products that chelated mercury began to increase those symptoms, and lead to improvements over time was another strong sign I was on the right track.

I then found myself healing from this after a few years of going through detox (skin rashes the whole deal).

So for me, not so much blame, but discovery. I can't speak for everyone else on this forum, but if you've gone down different roads and come up with nothing and going around in circles, it's not a bad idea to give it a go and treat possible candida and mercury. What have you got to lose? apart from money in amalgam replacement, getting rid of extra mercury is still an investment in the future.

Treating candida should not cost a lot of money. Eating healthy is wise no matter what the problem is. Sugar is the worst thing anybody can consume. Natural sugars / energy are abundent in just about every other food and in a healthy way.

Sorry for the long post. The symptoms of candida from what I have learned and read over the years are very similar to mercury. They cross over, so if you do have both or either, you may not know which one is responsible for what.

E.g. cold hands and feet, headaches, depression, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, panic, swollen tongue, indentations in tongue (mercury), thrush ((yeast), tremor (mercury), crying and salivating excessively and uncontrollably, particularly when using something to detox (toxins/mercury), uncontrollable giggling (yeast/mercury), insomnia, greyish discoloration/tattooing in gums or even genitals where it should be pink (metal poisoning/mercury), strange ritualistic behaviours/obsessions (yeast/mercury), muscle weakness, bowel upsets (constipation/diarreah), exhaustion, extreme fits of anger, easily jealous, lack of concentration, sensation of sheer stupidity, blank mind, loss of natural abilities, loss of creatity and motivation, mood swings, social withdrawal and fear of going out, metal taste in the mouth, metal smell sometimes on the body after sweating/exercising, skin rashes, wheezing in the lungs and strange symptoms after drinking hot fluids or even hot baths (encouraging vapor release from either fillings or pores and being breathed in), migraine headaches, skin pallor (can actually become greyish looking), blurred vision / problems focussing even on relatively near objects, loss of night vision, dark circles and deterioration of physical appearance, blemished skin, gut problems, thoughts becoming repetitive and strange, over sleeping, a feeling of being in a stupor, hair becoming grey easily/early, hair brittle and unhealthy, fading of hair pigment, less strongly coloured, loss of libido (or opposite), dizziness, bloating, weight gain or weight loss without much ability to change this etc etc.

These symptoms I have pretty much memorised from seeing articles many times, both on the net, in books and other places. These seem to be the typical symptoms of either or both mercury/candida. They could also be from something else, but I definitely had them all and found improvements from treating those things. Mercury and candida can imitate many problems and unfortunately people maybe misdiagnosed and shoved on antidepressants or even put in a mental institution.


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Frustration. Yup, it is frustrating not knowing why. I spent so much time and effort trying to find out whats wrong with me. Everything that I investigated was wrong with me! It was rather frustrating finding out all my bloody organs are screwed up. Liver full of gallstones. Kidneys full of kidney stones. Digestion completely shot. Multiple food intolerances, multiple chemical intolerances, chronic back pain. I got bacterial overgrowths and parasites galore. Then I find out I’m mercury toxic. Now….I have just found out my adrenals a screwed up too. and guess what….western medicine doesn’t “do” adrenals…..so…..I have to funkin read loads of books and look after them myself. Yet another thing I gotta become an expert on.

Money: I spent $6600 on my teeth this year.

Dead ends: I spent $17500 over the last 3 years learning the Alexander Technique. but more than anything it’s the time I spent. I have practiced Alexander Technique 2 to 3 times per day, every single day for 3 years. 3 x 365 days x 2 = 2,190 times I have practiced Alex T. Its not a deadend either, I am a considerably better person mentally and physically because of it, so it is not wasted in the slightest. I would not stop it now either, but it sure doesn’t get any mercury out of me! It stopped me looking for other solutions because I thought Alex T was the answer.

But I have good news for you because mercury is not a dead end. Mercury is the ROOT cause. And now you have found this out, you can sort it out. Mercury detox is simple. 1) You get the amalgams out. 2) you chelate the mercury using a safe detox protocol. Simple. It just takes a long time and there seems to be only a few paths through very dangerous jungle. Cutlers chelating protocol seems to be the one with the least problems and the most success.

The more you educate the less likely you are to do something wrong and regret it. Just look at the posts on this forum and all the people giving out advice. Why do you think they are doing that? Most likely because they funked up and hurt themselves and don’t want to see anyone else hurt.


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my first post

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Newbie here, just wanted to say hello world.
Phase 2 of amalgam removals starts Wednesday. Phase 1 was started 5 months ago by a regular dentist and my health has become even more troubled since then. So after much reading and research phase 2 will do done with rubber mask in an oxygen tent. Opppps sorry it’s the mercury talking again….. I meant to say with a rubber dam and oxygen mask
My health education has gone from zero to health freak in 7 months. I don’t watch TV anymore, I read health books!
I am an ex-party animal now suffering badly from his long list of troubles, which all nicely fall into the category of mercury poisoning, although the party animal-ing and zero health knowledge didn’t do me any favors!
A review of my history also has all fingers pointing to mercury poisoning. I gave up smoking 10 years ago using the eat-as-much-junk-food-&-sugar as possible technique. My teeth then needed 8 amalgam fillings in one sitting. Then I started to grind my teeth at night. Then the party continued and a started to grind my teeth in the day too and the rest as they say is history.
Tomorrow is D-day and I’m looking forward to getting this toxic scrap metal out.
The aftereffects will surely lead me to be a regular forum poster here. I will need plenty of help and advice.



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Mercury Poisoning Symptoms

Robert Gammal BDS. FACNEM(dent)

These are some of the Symptoms of Mercury poisoning. Be aware that mercury may underlay many disease symptom patterns. Always check This list is only touching the tip of the iceberg. It is by no means a complete list of symptom profiles for mercury poisoning.
ORAL CAVITY - PHARYNX.
Metalic taste
Bleeding gums
Gingivitis Loosening of teeth
increased salivation
Bad breath
Sore throat resistant to conventional treatment.
Stomatitis - inflamation of the tongue
Leukoplakia
Burning sensations in mouth and throat
Tissue pigmentation- the typical "amalgam Tattoo"
NASAL CAVITY - MIDDLE EAR Rhinitis leading to chronically stuffed nose

Bloody nasal discharge and dry crusts

Loss of smell

Hg spreads via nasal mucosa to inner ear tubes and middle ear;

Hearing impairement
Loss oof balance
Vertigo

Tinitus - ringing, hissing sounds in the ear. noises in the head

AIRWAYS - LARYNX
LOCAL- Laryngitis

Bronchitis

Pneumonia

Horseness of voice

unusually persistant cough

Damage to Alveolar Tissue;

Emphysemia

Sinusitis

Asthma

shortness of breath [may also be due to cardiac failure]

Chest Pains 15 - 30 minuites after eating accompanied by;
Air hunger

Mercury released from amalgam especially after hard Chewing goes to the Lungs then via the nasal and oral mucosa directly to the brain especially the HYPOTHALIMUS. This part of the brain is responsible for most autonomic functons of the body eg;

Drop in Blood Preasure - Heart rate, Blood Preasure, Respiratory rate.

Faintness

Sudden Weakness

GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT - LIVER

microbial flora convert mercury to methyl mercury

this is one hundred times more toxic than elemental mercury.

Local lesions of;

oesophagus

stomach

liver

gall bladder

intestinal tract

Gastritis

Abdominal pain

Diahrea

colitis

gastric and deuodenal ulcers

liver dysfunction and damage

HEART
Mercury damages blood vessels and muscle tissue

Damage to coronary bld. vessels

Coronary arterial disorder

Myocardial Necrosis

Tachycardia

Heart Muscle Arhythmias

Ventricular fibrilations.

Valve Damage

Some of these effects may also be due to electric currents generated in amalgams

Mercury will affect cholesterol levels

KIDNEY - URINARY SYSTEM
renal damage

oedema

Increased excretion of urine esp. at night

Reduced filtration capacity of kidney

Accompanying increased thirst

Local Irritation of bladder ------difficult and painfull urination

Kidney injury can - refered pain to Groin or Testes

Mercuri chloride (calomel) was used as a diuretic against cardiac edema back in the 1700's

MUSCULAR - SKELETAL - JOINTS
Degenerative Arthrosis

Inflamatory arthritis

Mercury deposits in bone

Mercury deposition especially in bone marrow

Common in Vertebral column, Hips and knees

In a study of 298 dentists over 50 years of age

14% had very high levels of mercury in the bones

of the wrist and temporals. readings of 40 - 200 mcg Hg/g bone.

Muscular pains

muscular weakness

Muscle twitches

joint and muscle pain

ENDOCRINE GLANDS
Maximum storage in Pituritary, Thyroid, Gonads, Adrenals.

Hg has uptake in Epididymus -Sterility

A direct lymphatic route exists between gingiva pf lower jaw and thyroid gland and retrosternally to the Thymic region.

Cold clamy skin esp hands and feet

Subnormal temperatures

IMMUNE SYSTEM
Rapid uptake in bone marrow reduction in B lymphocytes.

Rapid uptake in Thymus reduction in T lymphocytes

Combines with protiens to form organo-mercurial complexes

auto-antibodies ie. Auto Immune Diseases.

( Lupus Ehrythematosis, Endometriosis etc)

Suppression of the whole defence immune system

increased susceptibility to all infections

increased susceptibility to some forms of cancer

Dramatic increase in all sorts of allergic reactions.

Some forms of Leukemia.

Auto Immune diseases

NEUROLOGICAL SYMPTOMS
Inhalation of mercury vapour causes high and rapid accumulation of mercury in the brain.

also accumulates in spinal chord.

Methl mercury has a special afinity for occipital lobes and Cerebellum

Low dosage/ long term mercurialism is characterised by;

extreme inexplicable fatigue - physical and mental

lack of initiative

loss of short term memory

lack of concentration

poor to no decision making ability

Irrational obsesion, phobias, Compulsions

Timidity and lack of self confidence

Grave depresion

unpredictable rapid mood changes. esp rage and sudden anger

unexplainable fear of death

Halucinations

Shyness and timidity

Tendency to isolation

Suicidal

Clinical symptoms are dependant on the sites damaged by the poison:

BRAIN
Frontal Lobes
Motor activity
Turning of head and eyes over contralateral side

Convulsive movements in oppoisite leg and foot

" " " arm and hand

Small muscle contractions,Chronic twitches, chewiing, smacking, licking

Parietal Lobes
Sensations of numbness and tingling

Perceptions of Buzzing and Vibration spreading thropugh body

Electrical stimulating sensations form external genitalia

Schizophrenia

Lack of recognition of size, nature and use of objects. and self

lack of ability for spatial distinction eg. up and down

Temporal Lobes
Rising epigastric sensations such as being choked

OLEFACTORY lobe sensations of unpleasant putrid smells eg rotten eggs

TASTE centresensations of BAD Taste

AUDITORY lobesnoises

Buzzing sounds

Voices

Music

Visual Pathwaysdistortion of small or big images

Objects may appear far away and unreal

strange objects may appear familiar

OCCIPITAL LOBES
Terminus of visual pathwaysflashing lights

Zig Zag scotomas as at early stage migraine

Constriction of visual field

Blindness

Migraine may be caused by a mercury induced angiopathy of small blood vessels in brain

BASAL GANGLIA
involuntary and excessive movements ]

tremor ] Parkinsonism

alpha rigidity of flexors and extensors ]

canimmobility ]

interferes with acetyl choline receptor sites in brain ie. interferes with neural transmision



HYPOTHALMIC REGION
"ANYTHING & EVERYTHING"

This is the controll centre of the whole autonomic nervous system

exerts its metabolic and endocrine function by influencing release of hormones from the pituritary

Appatite may increase obesity

Appatite may reduce anorexia nervosa

reduced sexual function

amenorhea

fatigue. air hunger, heart palpitation, sweating

PITURITARY GALND
Mercury vapour will pass directly to pituritary gland via the oral and nasal mucosa.

ANTERIOR LOBE
Gonadotrophic Hormone -male and female gonads

Adreno Cortico Trophic Hormone(ACTH) - stimulates adrenal functon

Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (STH) - thyroid function

Somato trophic Hormone (STH) - growth hormone

POSTERIOR LOBE
Vasopresin - anti diuretic action on kidneys

lesion here can produce diabetes insipidus- large amounts of urine with extreme thirst

CEREBELLAR LESIONS
organic mercury has a specific affinity for this and the occipital cortex

CONTROLLS MAINTENANCE OF EQUILIBRIUM

trunk ataxia - impairrement of body posture, unsteady gait lik drunkenness

arm and leg coordination

coarse violent shaking, irregular acton

intenton or action tremor



SPINAL CHORD LESIONS
Mercury may enter the spinal chord by the following routes;

1- Arterial- transported to all areas and encounters the blood brain barier. Mercury destroys and crosses the blood brain barrier with ease. Thus enters the brain and spinal chord

2- Vapour settles on the mucous membrane of the oro-nasal cavity and transported directly to the brain by way of the cranial veinous system to the intra cranial cavity and to the cervical region of the spinal chord

3- From nasal mucosa by way of transport along the olefactory nerve to the brain ( mercury is transported along nerves and the trigeminal wuld be another such route) to the cerebrospinal fluid and then to the spinalchord.

4- By entry to the cerebro spinal fluid. and deposited anywhere along the length of the spinal chord including the lower portions.

Anterior motor Horns;
Both lead and mercury produce a deficiency af arterial blood supply microangiopathy

reduction in blood supply to spinal chord

both will damage to red blood cells hemolysis and reduced oxygen carrying caapacity

The large motor neuron cells of the anterior horns of the spinal chord are the first to suffer

from ischemia with local lack of blood supply.

Progressive muscle weakness

Muscle Atrophy

wasting of limb and trunk musculature

Posterior Horns and Spinal Sensory Ganglia;
Extremely vulnerable to mercury poisoning

Sensory disturbances
irritative phenomena

Parasthesias (numbness)

Tingling sensations

Pain

Lack of sensibility

Lower part of spinal chord motor and sensory impairment of sacral reflexes

Irritative symptoms-Frequent urination, Dysuria.

Loss Phenomina- Bladder incontinance,

Loss of erection

impotence

Lack of female and male orgasm

REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM
DNA single strand breaks

Crosses placenta

crosses into breast milk

P.M.T.

Menstrual Irregularity and pain
Here's something that might give more insight to some symptoms

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That is the mother of all lists. wow. no wonder muggles don't believe.


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Wow! Thanks Melissa, this is exactly the kind of thing the first poster would have been after! This is much better!! And what got me was one of the symptoms (gross as it is) the nasal discharge which I failed to mention. Everytime I have been poisoned, I have had this and I know this is revolting, but it would be like tacky sticky and then I would get the crusts and even some blood. I wake up with this every morning (crusts and some blood). This is exactly what I used to get when my body was trying to dump mercury.

After my stupid binge smoking, I am getting this again. So one has to wonder, what other toxins aside from mercury can cause that this time around? Or is it just the body's way of desperately trying to eliminate strong toxins that might have gotten into the nasal tissue?

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I found this in a link in a post from 2006 I thought it might help heck it showed me symtoms that i never thought could be related to mercury.See how great this forum is

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i believe you started me with Cutler too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" />


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I dare you to do a count up!

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i believe you started me with Cutler too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/imnotworthy.gif" alt="" />

Glad to have <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />, the more the word gets out about his protocol the better! Im sure you'd agree! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. I have no idea who got me onto Cutler, but sure wish I recall it. Then again, it's possible that it was just through searching the net so many times that I came across it and tried it after messing myself up time and time again with various other methods.

I had done so many things, followed "so called" expert advice and used all the chlorella and other things and just got way too sick from it. Even Cutler mentions the typical way that doctors chelate their patients and how much damage it can do. Long term damage also.

In fact all the things that my doctor was doing, who is an "expert" in this field and gone overseas, were all listed as the things to steer clear from in his book. She did them all on me with pretty disastrous results. She kept saying "It's a healing crisis" and dont get me wrong, possibly it was to some degree, but at what price? The mental torment I went through, the screaming and salivating and unable to continue her protocol and being told "You have to keep going" when I simply could not, eventually I had to stop. I was becoming insane with symptoms and even after I stopped, the afteeffects would sometimes go on for months at a time. I imagine damage may have been done too.

HIs protocol didn't do this to me. It made me understandably unwell sometimes during the detoxing, tired, achey and just plain "yuck", but nothing like what other methods did. The healing crisis from his was somewhat tolerable and I could keep chelating. Sometimes I felt better on his protocol than without it. Over time, his was the only one I used in the end.

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I looked at the list of symptoms and I have so many it's scary. Good list though, a little overwhelming. But I don't have as many of the symptoms now as I did before removal. So I feel I am seeing a small improvement...an inch LOL!!! It is such a slow process but one I am willing to hang in there and fight for, my health. Your right about the doctors, they don't know and you are virtually on your own. So yes it is frustrating but I have learned more in the last year than I ever have all the years I was in school. I am so grateful for the forum and all the kind friends, I wouldn't have known where to turn. It's always nice to get on here when I feel crappy and be among company that knows exactly what I am talking about and feeling.
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I would not do a count up. I daren’t think how many symptoms I have from that list. Just looking at the list made me wince…

Bex…its posts like your last post that really help me. I too have been screwed up by some of the advice I have received. No harm was intended, just they didn’t know what they where talking about. They just google metal detox…saw some company selling a product….and advised me to take it. Its just ignorance and ignorance hurts with this mercury business. Cysteine got me. Really pissed me off to that because I had just started healing then that bloody cysteine put me back a month.

Yup, educating is key. Unfort too few people know about mercury. That means reading whole books. Not a summary or a 10 minute article written by a journalist. What do journalists know about your health? Do you own research!

I too am grateful for the forum, I never thought just being able to discuss all the problems would have such a liberating effect. I am not alone. There is a reason for all the trouble. I am not mad. It is normal to feel so bad. It will pass. It is curable. I will get better.


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