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Thank you for reading.
I have tried to do searches on this, but find conflicting info. Would like some advice please.

I am having 2 mercury amalgam fillings replaced, and am planning on doing a natural, slower approach to detox. I need to know the amount of a couple of these things to take.

For the Protective part I plan on taking:
Algin
Vitamin E with selenium
Vitamin C

for the Chelation:
Chlorella
Whey protein (as a sulphur and glutathione precursor)
Garlic (maybe)

My question is based on this conservative detox approach, I need to know how much Algin would be suggested, and how much Chlorella?
I'm particularly confused about how much Algin and dont want to overdo it and cause nutritional absorbtion problems. What is the normal daily range of these two items? And when is best to take them in (i.e before meal, during meal, or between meals)?

Thanks in advance for anyone who can help me with this.

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hi and welcome to the forum, you'll find lots of good info in this forum , as for myself I have not used algin but there are forum members that have , the only advise that I can give is when you start your suppliments , only start one at a time and see how you do on it for several days before starting the next one , if you start all your suppliments together and have a reaction then you will not be able to know which one is causing the problem , you may also want to start a journal so you can track your progess , hope this helps

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Also, I am confused about what brand or what Algin to actually look for. My local health food store didnt knowwhat I was talking about, its not in Hal Huggins index of his book, and wikipedia just has an entry for algenic acid or something.

So along with my above questions which I hope someone can answer, I'd also like to know what exactly I'm looking for that is "algin" at the health food store.

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Hi there, I think "Nature's Sunshine" is the brand of Algin that seems to be one of the best and is available from herballure (you can see it at the top righthand corner of the page). "algin".

Unlike charcoal, I dont think algin has the issues with absorbing nutrients etc. I am certain it is ok anytime, but you can check with Russ Tanner (owner of the forum). if you like.

Your protective supplements sound great and seems to be the ones that are mentioned as being good to use. But detoxing the mercury itself is a real individual thing. Some find chlorella, cilantro, and other mobilising products can be troublesome and exacerbate symptoms too much (garlic another one). Garlic/chlorella are high in sulfur and some do marvellously on them, but others find they get intolerable symptoms due to mobilising the mercury too much. Depends on how you react.

You may want to look into the Andrew Hall Cutler approach to mercury chelation, which seems to be extremely popular and one that seems very well tolerated by many people. I found it safer, more effective and better tolerated by me when I used it. I found other products like garlic, chlorella, or taking DMSA the wrong way would cause such a wild increase in symptoms, I would often be in a terrible state.

Andrew Cutler's approach works by taking certain chelating agents in such a way as to work by escorting the mercury out of the body without moving it all over the place at the sametime. Basically taking a chelating agent (DMSA ) on a particular time table (e.g. every 4 hours around the clock). This ensures that the DMSA remains at even levels in the blood and can therefore move mercury in more constant, consistent even manner also. Rather than bouncing it all over the place with intermittant doses that cause the movement of mercury to be more unpredictable.

It is really up to the person what they find is the best for them. You can look up Andrew Cutler's mercury chelation on the net if you want to find out more about it. His book is available also on this forum (top left of screen in yellow). So certainly it is popular and well used by many mercury toxic people (on here also).

I did many things to get my mercury out, but didn't know that I could have saved myself a lot of time and agony by using a protocol that was far kinder and more effective. I finally did use Andy's way, but only after a lot of experimenting with other products that caused an unnecessary side effects. His was better for me, still not easy, but better and got me (i believe) on the way much quicker.


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I second everthing Bex said. The Andy Cutler detox protocol is what I will be using. The more you read, the more I hear the tough times people have, the more cautious you become. In the end why bother trying something that has 100pct screwed someone else up. There is no need to take the chance you might be ok with a product or supplement. For example cysteine. It was recommended I start “detoxing the metal straight away” – it royally screwed me up. Massively. Never again will I go near that stuff. But it was recommended to me by someone i trusted to know whats what. well....to my ill health...they did not know what they where talking about.

Andy’s protocol seems sensible to me.

In my opinion it is the best $35 I ever spent in educating myself.

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Hello and Welcome
I am one of those people that could not tolerate the heavy chelators at least yet. I have been taking garlic and eat high sulpher foods and do well except for eggs....they kill me, mostly my stomach. I take vit c too but can only handle 2500 mg, if I try to up it I hurt all over and messes my stomach up. I did well on chlorella for awhile but then developed an allergy to it and had to stop it. It depends on the person I think and what they find works best for them. I am going to try the dmsa and ala soon but just taking it slow for now. Keep studying the forum you will find loads of info here.
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I think nobody should be afraid of using alpha lipoic acid (ALA); it's an anti-oxidant like C and E, and occurs naturally in foods such as meat, but not in amounts that is sufficient for chelation.

DMSA is another matter, however, since it is a synthetic compound that doesn't belong in our bodies. So if you want to stay natural, don't use DMSA. It isn't essential either, ALA is more important.

Personally, I don't believe that mercury is the real issue you need to concentrate on. It has been shown that ALA chelates mercury, and its good to get rid of it, but the primary concern is to kill off the parasites in your body, as it is they who cause most of your problems. With candida alone, and no mercury involved, you can still get a suicide depression, i.e. it is not the mercury that causes it directly, it merely lowers your immune system, that allows parasites to thrive & multiply in your body. Even if you get all mercury out, the parasites will still be there and cause you trouble.

In this sense ALA is doubly good because it chelates both mercury and kills parasites by increasing glutathione in your body. I'm sure that ALA would be good against candida alone too. The reason why I say this is because I can't be very mercury toxic, because I had only one filling, but I still got rather sick, and I find everything that is targeted for mercury toxic people works for me too.

Furthermore, one must remember that there are a lot of people who have mercury fillings but are not sick. They too have mercury spread around in their bodies, but it doesn't apparently cause them much trouble. I wouldn't say they are immune to mercury, but their immune system is better than ours, and so their bodies still work well enough to not let parasites invade them.

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Cool post Pgm. I also have come to the same conclusions about parasites. They have become top priority on my to-do list and my cause list.

“but the primary concern is to kill off the parasites in your body, as it is they who cause most of your problems. With candida alone, and no mercury involved, you can still get a suicide depression, i.e. it is not the mercury that causes it directly, it merely lowers your immune system, that allows parasites to thrive & multiply in your body. Even if you get all mercury out, the parasites will still be there and cause you trouble.”

That is spot on. Now that I have been researching parasites and have taken some parasite killers I know I have a BIG parasite issue. So many of the foods we commonly eat stir up parasites and give loads of strange symptoms. Garlic/pumpkinseeds/coconut oil.... to name but a few…all major parasite killers, but if u mercury toxic and yo organs are not working correctly these foods just stir the buggers up and give u hell.

(When I say parasite, that includes bacterial overgrowth and fungus growths too)


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