Thanks for the answers i will deffinantly look at the liver flushes.I had my gallbladder removed and had pancreatitis back in 92 so i never really thought about the liver.It just struck me weird 'cuz this is yet another new symptom.I had a upper and lower G.I done last year because of all the heartburn and they didnt find anything.I woke up this morning a little better not the intense pain just the bruised feeling.I guess just another new one for me.I guess being lucky with not having cramping periods for 25 yrs is over. Each time I get a new symptom I feel like sending the Dentist a bill that did this to me.I wish i would go with menopause so i could get done with that but at 35 my doc says about 5-10 yrs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> my mom went through it about 3yrs and shes still having hot flashes,but she no longer has her period or mood swings(thank god) but she was taking some kind of pill from the health store that really helped her.Well thanks for letting me vent and for calming me down. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flower4u.gif" alt="" />