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Russ, I've said that it isn't my job to refute entire websites and videos, and other people have already done this. It is rather disingenuous to tell me to "see this," post a link in a second or two, and then expect me to spend hours refuting it. That is why I have asked if we can discuss specific examples here. And also because I'd like to hear your personal questions, as I don't know what you do and don't understand about the issues in question.
If you are referring to bilateral symmetry, here is your answer. Eyes, legs etc. are not evolved anew in each animal. Bilateral symmetry evolved more than 500 million years ago. Animals since then have inherited that symmetry.
Here's how it works. Bilateral symmetry is implemented by signalling molecules that give identical domains on left and right. A person's left eye (normally) is exposed to the same development signals as their right eye, so the two eyes grow alike. A single mutation that varies how an eye develops would still affect both eyes equally. For asymmetrical eyes, an additional mechanism must evolve to supercede the symmetry and give different development signals to each side.
Let me know if you would like more detail or clarification.
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Backbone of creationist beliefs?
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Kitsune
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09/09/07 08:16 AM
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A Slight Non Sequitur
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Christian Oppression?
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When avoiding honest fails....hurl invectives.
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If You Can't Win A Debate, Then Just Don't Let It End
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10/07/07 09:10 AM
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Who Do You Believe
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10/21/07 03:34 AM
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Clarity
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Russ
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10/21/07 03:41 AM
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Kitsune
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10/21/07 07:21 AM
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10/23/07 05:28 AM
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Elvis
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10/23/07 09:32 AM
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The Way The World Really Works
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11/07/07 08:54 PM
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Re: Who Do You Believe
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SoSick
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Kitsune
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10/04/07 11:38 AM
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10/04/07 05:30 PM
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Truth, Lies, and Evolution
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Russ
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10/04/07 07:05 PM
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10/04/07 08:20 PM
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Truth, Lies, and Evolution: Part II
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Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution
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Russ
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10/05/07 03:08 PM
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