|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 83
Senior Member
|
I don't by any means believe that science and faith are incompatible. I enjoy science and am a theist. I also have several Christian friends who are professional scientists with Ph.D's in their respective field. I was merely saying that some people believe without question what mainstream science tells them and thus will believe evolution without question. That, to me, is the equivalent of someone believing everything they are told by various religious leaders without question. Most of my religious friends have thought deeply about various issues, struggled with others, and come to their own conclusions eventually. I believe my own caution with science is merited, especially as modern medicine poisoned me, and for me personally, the case for evolution has not been proven. Fundamental science suggests an Uncaused Cause, independent to itself, intelligent and eternal, thus to me that is far more evidence of God than it is evolution by random chance. I believe we were created. I didn't say I didn't believe in some form of evolution and I didn't say I do - I don't know. I have had several supernatural experiences, including interactive encounter with a spirit of a dead person. If seeing is believing, I trust my own experience that there is life after death to what a non-believing scientist would tell me. I have experienced the supernatural, therefore it is real to me. I can understand someone not having the same view without the experience. I can say it was real, someone else can say it was delusion - the difference is only opinion, not fact.
I don't have time to discuss these issues at length, and to be honest, I don't like internet discussions - things have already been implied from what I wrote that I did not mean i.e. I believe faith and science are imcompatible, and that I question fundamentals like gravity. That's the danger with e-communication.
I generally only present my views as food for discussion, not to debate. No one ever seems to change their mind, anyway, and people just seem to get hurt. I leave confrontations to those who enjoy battling opinions. I mostly keep mine to myself. I also don't believe there is anything I can say to convince someone there is a God, neither do I think it is my responsibility to do so - if there is a God, that God could reveal himself to anyone at anytime without my help <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by Demi; 10/04/07 01:44 PM.
|
|
|
|
Entire Thread
|
Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
09/09/07 08:16 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
09/16/07 02:10 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Demi
|
10/01/07 12:03 AM
|
A Slight Non Sequitur
|
Pwcca
|
10/01/07 08:51 AM
|
Christian Oppression?
|
Russ
|
10/01/07 03:58 PM
|
Re: Christian Oppression?
|
SoSick
|
10/02/07 06:34 AM
|
Trading Liberty for Security
|
Russ
|
10/02/07 01:10 PM
|
Re: Trading Liberty for Security
|
Kitsune
|
10/02/07 02:38 PM
|
Re: Trading Liberty for Security
|
Pwcca
|
10/02/07 05:47 PM
|
Re: Trading Liberty for Security
|
Pwcca
|
10/02/07 05:48 PM
|
Bar Codes and the Mark of the Beast
|
Russ
|
10/02/07 09:28 PM
|
Re: Bar Codes and the Mark of the Beast
|
SoSick
|
10/03/07 03:19 AM
|
Re: A Slight Non Sequitur
|
SoSick
|
10/02/07 06:16 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/01/07 03:45 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Demi
|
10/04/07 12:39 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/04/07 03:18 AM
|
Photo of Angel?
|
LinearAq
|
03/06/08 07:15 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/10/08 05:45 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
LinearAq
|
03/10/08 08:10 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/10/08 08:34 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
LinearAq
|
03/11/08 05:53 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/11/08 08:45 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
LinearAq
|
03/12/08 02:13 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/12/08 03:32 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
LinearAq
|
03/13/08 05:38 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/13/08 07:35 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
Kitsune
|
03/14/08 06:46 AM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
Bex
|
03/14/08 09:57 AM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
SoSick
|
03/14/08 12:37 PM
|
When avoiding honest fails....hurl invectives.
|
LinearAq
|
03/14/08 04:40 PM
|
Certainly Uncertain
|
LinearAq
|
03/14/08 04:53 PM
|
Re: Certainly Uncertain
|
Bex
|
03/14/08 08:57 PM
|
Re: Certainly
|
SoSick
|
03/15/08 03:27 AM
|
Re: Certainly
|
LinearAq
|
03/15/08 01:08 PM
|
Re: Certainly Uncertain
|
Kitsune
|
03/15/08 12:03 PM
|
Re: Photo of Angel?
|
Pwcca
|
03/15/08 07:19 AM
|
Re: Pwcca...More Character Assassination?
|
Laura Clement
|
03/15/08 03:26 PM
|
Re: Pwcca...More Character Assassination?
|
SoSick
|
03/15/08 04:40 PM
|
Deadly Assassins Targeting Forum Characters
|
Pwcca
|
03/17/08 07:57 PM
|
Re: Deadly Assassins Targeting Forum Characters
|
Bex
|
03/18/08 03:17 AM
|
Re: Deadly Assassins Targeting Forum Characters
|
SoSick
|
03/18/08 04:31 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Pwcca
|
10/04/07 07:09 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/04/07 11:12 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/04/07 05:56 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/04/07 07:33 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 12:02 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/05/07 06:29 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 04:06 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/05/07 04:09 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 04:12 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 04:16 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/05/07 04:32 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 04:54 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/05/07 05:37 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 05:50 PM
|
If You Can't Win A Debate, Then Just Don't Let It End
|
Russ
|
10/05/07 06:13 PM
|
Re: If You Can't Win A Debate, Then Just Don't Let It End
|
Kitsune
|
10/06/07 09:40 AM
|
Science and Politics: A Bad Mix
|
Russ
|
10/06/07 11:08 PM
|
Re: Science and Politics: A Bad Mix
|
SoSick
|
10/07/07 02:01 AM
|
Irreducible Complexity and Other Evolutionary Problems
|
Russ
|
10/07/07 09:10 AM
|
The science of evolution
|
Kitsune
|
10/08/07 09:41 AM
|
Who Do You Believe
|
Russ
|
10/08/07 07:35 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/09/07 06:27 AM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
Pwcca
|
10/09/07 01:51 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
Kitsune
|
10/11/07 10:52 AM
|
Evolutionary Magic
|
Russ
|
10/12/07 05:45 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Magic
|
Pwcca
|
10/13/07 09:41 PM
|
Personal Integrity
|
Russ
|
10/15/07 08:00 AM
|
Re: Evolutionary Magic
|
Pwcca
|
10/15/07 06:50 AM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Kitsune
|
10/15/07 03:13 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Russ
|
10/15/07 04:39 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Kitsune
|
10/15/07 05:26 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Kitsune
|
10/15/07 06:01 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Russ
|
10/15/07 06:05 PM
|
Re: Evolutionary Science
|
Pwcca
|
10/15/07 08:38 PM
|
How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Russ
|
10/16/07 04:16 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/16/07 05:58 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Elvis
|
10/16/07 10:19 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/17/07 12:16 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/17/07 04:13 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Kitsune
|
10/17/07 06:37 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Elvis
|
10/17/07 09:39 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Kitsune
|
10/17/07 12:37 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Elvis
|
10/17/07 07:50 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/19/07 04:23 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Kitsune
|
10/20/07 05:19 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/21/07 02:17 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Russ
|
10/21/07 03:34 AM
|
Clarity
|
Russ
|
10/21/07 03:41 AM
|
Re: Clarity
|
Kitsune
|
10/21/07 07:21 AM
|
Re: Clarity
|
Elvis
|
10/21/07 09:34 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Pwcca
|
10/22/07 07:20 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Elvis
|
10/22/07 07:40 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Russ
|
10/22/07 11:10 PM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
SoSick
|
10/23/07 05:28 AM
|
Re: How To Win Every Debate You Ever Have In Your Entire Life
|
Elvis
|
10/23/07 09:32 AM
|
The Way The World Really Works
|
Russ
|
11/07/07 08:54 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/11/07 03:49 AM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
Pwcca
|
10/11/07 07:30 AM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/11/07 06:08 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
Pwcca
|
10/11/07 09:41 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/11/07 10:57 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/11/07 11:52 PM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
Pwcca
|
10/12/07 06:54 AM
|
Re: Who Do You Believe
|
SoSick
|
10/13/07 12:48 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/04/07 11:38 AM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Demi
|
10/04/07 05:30 PM
|
Truth, Lies, and Evolution
|
Russ
|
10/04/07 07:05 PM
|
Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution
|
Kitsune
|
10/04/07 08:20 PM
|
Truth, Lies, and Evolution: Part II
|
Russ
|
10/05/07 03:06 PM
|
Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution: Part II
|
Kitsune
|
10/05/07 04:01 PM
|
Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution: Part II
|
SoSick
|
10/05/07 04:42 PM
|
Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution
|
Pwcca
|
10/04/07 08:58 PM
|
Re: Truth, Lies, and Evolution
|
Russ
|
10/05/07 03:08 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Demi
|
10/17/07 09:59 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
Kitsune
|
10/20/07 05:18 PM
|
Re: Backbone of creationist beliefs?
|
CTD
|
11/26/08 06:16 AM
|
|
|
|