why do only alternative docs do this? and same for candida etc? and IGG foog allergy?

Why dont docs use Vega and muscle testing? if they work im sure all the doctors would be using them>?

Check the bibliography of the books by Hal Huggins , Mark Breiner , Sam Ziff , Frank Jarome , Andy Cutler and you will find hundreds of references to journal articles in respected scientific journals on the dangers of amagams.

To quote fight club
A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

The sheer amount of money that would be spent in the dentistry industry to take people's amalgams off is too great. Plus the ripple effect it would cause to insurance companies and massive lawsuits.

The amount of people affected by amalgams is negligible. A lot more people would have to become symptomatic for huge changes to be made.
What will most likely happen is dentists will gradually move away from amalgams and try to keep it quiet until it is completely ruled out

If you are doing so great with your amalgams why aren't you doing something more useful with your time????

btw. Some mainstream docs do confirm it...

The was a time when docs where thinking that smoking was healthy...

There was a time when docs where thinking asbestos was harmless...

There was a time when mercurochrome was harmless...

if mainstream medicine knows everthing why waste money doing research??? We know already everything, right? The knowledge in medicine is static. We don't need research. There is nothing new under the sun...

PS. you are an idiot...

Again why the hostility? Kriminal has every right to his opinion like everyone else on the forum. Is it not possible to disagree without the insults. Come on everyone on here is suffering, support and understanding, even if you don't agree with someone else isn't that difficult. Life is too short. Live and let live. Tracy

because doctors arn't taught about mercury.
Doctors treat symptoms, not the cause of illness.
There are so many stories of people recovering from different diseases or ailments after removing their amalgams, that i suspect that doctors salary would go down a bit if people started getting better and not visiting the doc so much, its all about money!

I think amalgam fillings will be phased out gradually, not sure about thimerisol in vaccines though, so i dont think we could ever say to our family and friends, "see, i told you mercury was dangerous in your teeth" its a shame though, i would love to see it on breaking news on sky TV
MERCURY HAS BEEN FOUND TO CAUSE CANCER,MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS, DIABETES, DEPRESSION, ETC AND PEOPLE ARECARRYING IT AROUND WITH THEM IN THEIR TEETH UNKNOWING THE DANGERS IT COULD CAUSE!

I have many symptoms like many people in this forum with my amalgams
You need better reading comprehension, I never said amalgams don't affect anyone, they just need to affect more people for big changes to be made. And as shocking as it may sound the amount of people affected is a very small fraction to the amount of people that have amalgams.

And don't start spouting off crap that has nothing to do with this, it seems you don't understand that medicine is ever evolving and always building on

A lot a folks who remain unaware of their slow on-going mercury toxicity will later have Alzheimers consequently the connection is never made.
The connection is never made for many merc. related illnesses so it'd be real hard to say in any truthfullness that only a small amount a folks were affected.

Kriminal, your Fight Club quote is pure quality mate, absolutely first class. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> The perfect reply <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I laughed my socks off; Fight club is my all time number 1. Film. Tyler would approve <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I do think amalgams (those who have them) affect everyone at some point in their life. If they don't get you when you are still younger, you will get your share when you're older. I think people would live much longer without amalgams. With amalgams old people get infested with candida and all that stuff.
And nearly all old people have at least had one or more cavity in their teeth, so how many old people do not have amalgams in their teeth? (I think not many). Root canals may be even equally horrific to mercury, even if no mercury is used. And last but not least, the western diet fuels the candida, making things even worse.

Dear Elvis Alziemers is particularly caused by Aluminium. I recently had a blood test for this. The safe amount for body Alunminium is 35, mine was 120. Aluminium is very dangerous. We are dealing with all kinds of Metal toxicity. I think we think Mercury is the main concern, and for some maybe ,but I believe some of us have such a high sensitivity to all kinds of toxicity we really have a huge batle on our hands. Did you know chocolate and Broccoli both contain high amounts of Aluminium as do sleeping tablets, used for colouring. I have become so sensitive to metals that a bracelet I wear, which is instead of an engagemnt ring from Keith has caused me to have brown lines running up my wrist and down my hand to the fingers. What a damn world we live in. I use to eat tons of broccoli because I believed it was good foe me! I have always been allergic to Gold and any Gold earings would make my ears instantly fester. Have you ever read the ingredients on a bar of chocolate and read that one of the ingredients is Aluminiun? Someone has a lot to answer to . love and peace Tracy x P.S My dad never had dental work in his life until about 5 years ago, cos he's always has incredibly strong teetth. At 80 he visited the dentist had work done, this resulted in numerous mouth and tongue infections and a few months later he developed prostrate cancer. Coincidence maybe? Who knows

I have read the scientific literature and aluminum does not cause Alzheimer's but mercury does . As far as aluminum being in chocolate and other products, the dose determines the poison. There are trace amounts of arsenic, aluminum mercury etc in many things but not neccessarily a toxic level of them.
Dentists , and dental materials manufacturers, not doctors, should be held responsible for amalgam. Doctors have a million things to learn without learning dentistry.

Gold jewellery is only 50% gold and your allergy is probably to some other component.
Sorry about your father Tracy.The seniors that I know that are physically healthy and not senile are the ones with no dental work .

Excellent full-proof argument, take a little personal experience and extrapolate it to everyone else

Hey, jill
kinda hard to tell what all causes Alzheimer's cuz everbodys steeped in a heavy mental cocktail but Ah think Tracy has a valid point there about the aluminium ( an might sorry to hear a the high levels, there, nasty). Anaways , not much info out there on the synergistic effects a multiple heavy metal poisonin , kinda hard to seperate the crud from the shite.
As Martha Stewart wouldn't say, it's ALL bad.

Info that originally came from my naturopath -- aluminium is ubiquitous. It occurs naturally in almost everything, including many many foods, because it is in the soil. The catch here is that it is assimilated by the growing plants, and they render it into a harmless form. Have a look at some nutrition sites or try Googling this, it really is true. The dangerous aluminium comes from mostly man-made sources like pots and pans, contaiminated tap water, pesticides, and dare I say it chemtrails. I don't think you need to fear the broccoli though Tracy, it's a very nutritious food.

Linda.

Preciate that, Lindalou.

i once read that aluminium is more dangerous when mixed with mercury, its more toxic.

The truth as far as I see it, and I could be totally wrong.

They don't get that far. They see you for 5 minutes. They run tests, but they come out pretty much normal. They have not been taught these things in school. So they run down the symptom road. You have IBS or GERD, you have skin problems, you have headaches, you have sleep problems - but without 2 or 3 hours with you, they will never know what is happening. Finally, when you come in with anxiety from devastating conditions, they will magically decide "My God, you have a mental condition" - and the sales rep who left 2 minutes ago says our Paxil will fix that for you.

My humble opinion, I thought maybe that would be a good idea - take whatever they offer. But something inside of me said no way - I will not take something I have read about that has caused major problems in some people.

When I was going through this, I knew personally it was not possible that I could start feeling anxiety attacks in a mall I happily shopped in/went to for 18 years before. It did not make any sense. Has anyone else experienced this? Where you just started feeling so bad you could not stand it? That, to me, is the point of toxic overload - your system just could not handle it any more.

TW

Dentists and doctors belong to the old boys network. They are going to back up their golfing buddies to the bitter end.

On the aluminum and mercury combo...."When numerous metals are present in the body, they have a “synergistic toxicity.” Dr. Boyd Haley, professor and chair of the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky, performed a study on rats and found that the mortality rate of rats exposed to a small dose of mercury or aluminum killed only 1 rat in 100. However, when the rats were exposed to both mercury and aluminum at the same time, all 100 rats died—a 100% mortality rate."

from...
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/articles/heavy_metal_toxicity.html

Yep that happened to me often....and now doing this heavy duty detoxing with iodine, it is happening all the time. It is the worst emotional roller coaster ride that you can ever imagine. I had to cut my iodine to one drop per day and sometimes even that is too much. The metals in chemo on top of the mercury is a frightening combo. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Sandi
xoxo

DENYABILITY !!!!DENYABILITY!!!! DENYABILITY !!!!

Couln't agree more Mikey, I would not put anything on this forum without sound evidence, and I don' t give a f**ck what people think. There is someone on this forum who knows exactly what I'm talking about with the Aluminium causing Alzeimers, no not Mercury or a combination, Aluminium. It seems to me that no matter what research you do to try and guide people and help them, you just get continuosly kicked in the teeth. Well as far as I'm concerned you can all live in your own little denial worlds and continue to suffer. Rachie is spot on this forum has changed, all people want to do is dispute and bicker. Good luck Mikey you have brain mate. Tracy x I have had an allergy to Gold yes Gold since I was a baby it wa confirmed, what the hell is wrong with you people, I truly believe some of you just come on here to p**s others off and Broccoli is absolutely confirmed to habve ahigh Aluminium content no matter wat soil it's grown in. Like hitting your head against a brick wall.

Tracy, I am not saying that aluminum doesn't cause alzheimers', I am sure it does, but aluminum mixed with mercury is possibly a worse combination.

Sorry if I offended you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Sandi
xoxo

Sandi you could never offend me my darling, just some of these idiots who think they no more about our own bodies than we do. Don't you ever worry, none of my replies are aimed at you sweetheart, Anyway you may be interested to know that several of us are trying to start up our own website where we can carry on supporting each e
other and caring without all this bickering crap. There are plenty of us who want it. When it's sorted I ll let you know. Keith will do it for us, and when it's done, you, an inspiration to so many of us will be a Godsend. P.S. Anyone else p*****d off with this crap private post me. Tracy x

It'sw been proven that there is njo link between Alzheimers disease and aluminum.
Why are people who disagree with Tracy "bickering" whereas she is not bickering when she disagrees . Are'nt we big boys and girls who can discuss issues without fallin apart?

Where is this proof that Alzheimers is not caused by aluminum?

How does deniability agree with anything you said? he is just answering the question of the first post and you go offtopic with a personal rant that has nothing to do with the conversation

People need to quit whining, if this forum has turned into such a wasteland then leave

Don't worry Kriminal am leaving and so are many more. Someone on this forum has absolute proof about Alziemers and Aluminium. I felt such anger for that person who knows first hand what it can do. Yea it has turned into a wasteland, but don't dare blame me or the other people like me who are sick and tired of being slagged off or argued with like we are nothing but morons and if Mikey has something to say to me I'm sure he's able to say it himself, why do you have to do it, cos you can't miss an oppurtunity to have a go at someone again. Find your heart Kriminal. Mercury poisoning can't be blamed for downright rudeness.

Too many seem overly melodramatic with the "I'm gonna leave" crap. Either you do it or you don't, you don't keep repeating it like an echo. Take a break, these forums are still great sources of information. Please just skip the drama queen act

As for the proof of Alzheimer's and aluminum you probably don't need it to know that heavy metal toxicity is correlated with a myriad of mental symptoms

We are going to do it, nothing to do with being a drama queen We are all suffering in our own way,and if you think I'm being a drama queen, well perhaps you might find it in your heart to recall I've just lost a sister who I'm still grieving for tremendously. I'm not using that as an excuse, but coming on here and being subjected to more misery is too much. Many of us are waiting for a new website to be started and then we are leaving. I'm sure that will make you very happy.

something has changed right but i have found this

there are people who are just ignorant, that have a stronger will than me now. they believe things like mercury can't hurt you or your not poisoned unless you have a 'red ring around your eyes' in the case where you can clearly be medically labelled as poisoned.

what i find is that i question myself when i listen to people telling me i should try harder, or what works for them doesn't work for me but should , its because of my weakened state.

it has nothing to do with me being wrong, i know that i'm not wrong but they believe it so much, and it is their experience, that its hard not to be affected by it.

so you just don't respond to it

know within yourself what you know to be true (which is hard with mercury feelings) and don't ever let it go.

if the same people who don't believe your experience and ignore what you have lived through to find true don't listen, either them, or heaven forbid their children partner etc, will never know what is subtely destroying them or their lives one day (a possibility), but you have nothing to gain by listening to people you know do not understand. they are the ones who have something to gain by listening, and their holding onto ignorance leaves them to vulnerability in the future.

we will not have to learn twice is what i mean.

i think i just said something profound, i hope so.

i 'm sure when russ started this web sight several years ago ,he designed it more for knowledge and information on the amlalgam issue ,since then this forum has taken on a life of its own ,freindships and stong bonds have been created and not to mention the mass amounts of information dealing with the whole amalgam issue ,but what we have to remember is every family will have there disagreements and squabels ,it's just part of being a family

TOO TRUE MIKEY ITS INEVITABLE WITH OUR MOOD SWINGS. BUT WHATS THE SAYING IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH AND LETS FACE IT GPS ARE GPS, GENERAL KNOWLEDGE, PLUS TOO MUCH AT STAKE MONEY WISE AND GOVERNMENT WISE. TRACY

Hi Tumbleweed,
Yes,I can identify with that.I have not gone to a doctor in years.So fed up with doctors offering me drugs for "depression" & anxiety.I did not feel depressed but was told my fatigue was depression,&was always offered antidepressants.Never took any.And as far as I'm concerned anxiety is completely natural reaction from our bodies under such strain.I remember one particular visit to Dr. years ago,I had been ill for months &all bloodtests results were "normal"
I felt so anxious& thought I was dying...the doctor jumped up and shouted at me ,"What do you mean you?any of us could die any minute,a bus or train could come crashing through that wall any second &we'd both be killed!"
I thought this was an interesting technique for dealing with an anxious patient.Maybe he figured I might take the drugs after that!

Anxiety for me has been 1 of my worst symptoms,but I have learned to respect it.It is my bodies alarm to make me stop and see what's up.To take care,rest &eat good nutritious food regularly.When I do this my anxiety is mostly kept at bay.
It can be so frightening to feel anxious,especially in a place where you have been for years (like the local shops)and I was particularly bad with this,couln't go outside some days.
It's confusing to feel anxious in a place you should feel safe,even in your home.
Yes this is why I call it the worst &most disabling symptom of them all.
Sunflower

Hey Sunflower/all:

I knew there must be some others out there that are having the same kind of experience - I have read some of their stories. I guess what I am driving at is look at the price we are paying due to the stupidity of this whole thing. Most of us were physically and mentally fine for a long time. Then slowly things go out of kilter. I had physical things going on way before any anxiety - things like dry skin, hypothyroid symptoms, etc. - and to hear a doctor dismiss all this as nothing is nonsense.

This was brought about by mercury. It is not a mental condition, and I believe many people are misdiagnosed as having mental conditions or autism or whatever, and it is mercury. Has anyone told Jenny McCarthy her kid is suffering from mercury poisoning? Cause I am guessing that is true. Yes, it is autism - caused by mercury.

Can we prove it? In my mind, I have to myself by the fact that many of us uncannily have the same or similar symptoms - usually revolving around thyroid and adrenals - that is where the anxiety is coming from, I think. Does anyone agree? Also, you don't go from frequent urination, like every hour or less, to normal overnight, which strangely happened after removal of my last filling. This was a condition I had for 20+ years. And the anxiety attacks went away after removal and chelation. And there are alot of other things pointing to mercury too.

The main thing is when is this story going to go mainstream again? People need to know. How come there are so few of us on this forum compared to the millions with silver fillings? Are we just a small percent who reached the stage where it is a problem? Like the supersensitive 1%? I don't think so, but what do I know?

I pray for all of us that this mercury damage is reversible, and is not permanent.

TW

Hi again Tumbleweed,
Yes there are millions out there suffering from this who just are not aware of it.And others who would not believe it.And again lots who are suffering &know why but have not had the good fortune to stumble across herballure yet! The more I learn about these health issues,environment,food etc,
the more clearly I can see the people around me suffering from symptoms due to all of this &no doubt metal amalgams included.People merely existing &not living like we should be.
It has become the norm to have 1or other ailment.
Have you ever heard of Patrick Holford,he founded Optimum Nutrition Institute in England,
He says "we are no longer naked apes but knackered apes."
I believe that we are truly amazing & yes we can fully heal ourselves from this & regain a healthy life.
Have you seen/read "The Secret" there's a wonderful quote from that I love
"Incurable means curable from within"
Even on my worst days,moments, I remember these kinds of positive things and the strenght &healing power we have is astounding.
Sunflower
ps. yes adrenals &thyroid problems seem to be mentioned alot on this forum.I was told these were out for me,from hair test results.I also needed to go to bathroom more,which in itself caused me anxiety as when you are out,or travelling,there are not always facilities available for public use.You might wonder what planet I live on.I live in Ireland.This is an issue here.Also as there is alot of I.B.S. sufferers (that among other resons could be due to the fact the average Irish person drinks at least 5 cups of tea &our tap water is fluoridated.YIKES!)
Can we prove it?We can carry on learning,informing others,
using what strenght we have to recover our health &meanwhile ,more &more people are becoming aware of these issues.It is only a matter of time,I think it will be common knowledge.WE HAVE A DUTY TO INFORM OTHERS OF WHAT WE FIND OUT.

If doctors were to confirm amalgam was bad for you they might have to reach deep in their pockets for lawsuit money. They are not going to tell, their hands are tied by the ama even if they wanted to actually tell their patient. They are just too busy making up new diseases so their money doesn't run out. Wonder how many diseases are actually mercury toxcity?