How are you doing with your NDF cleanse? Do you feel better? Did you try the cutler protocol before without success? if yes, how many rounds did you do?

No healing crisis with NDF at all for me. I recommend a good doc who uses a form of Applied Kinesiology (muscle testing) so that you can monitor what weaknesses your body has and which remedies you need. Depression hasn't shifted with it, but you only have to look at the lab studies to know that 2 - 3 months is gonna knock out a lot of your Hg content.
I've started Dr Schulzes Intestinal Cleanses to clean up that department as muscle testing showed my colon and brain were primaries for treatment.
As for chemical chelators, if i want more chemicals put into an already toxic body, i'll go back to my psychiatrist for that.

did you notice increased mental clarity? You didn't try the cutler chelation before the cilantro?

Tried it for 6 months, no effect, hasn't dumped the same amount of metals that NDF has done. Not mental clarity as yet, taking a break from it right now as i'm addressing the middle section of my body instead of the top. Gut feelings is more than a cliche.

Why mock something you aint tried? No offense, but sounds like you have a personal hostility issue rather than anything substantial. Anybody familiar with Cutler's protocol knows that you dont have to use the chemical chelators. Alpha lipoic acid is an antioxidant.

Anyway natural chelators can cause plenty of bad reactions in people, seen heaps of that already and gone through it myself. Its mercury thats the problem here and Cutler's method uses a far more rational and logical approach which is probably why many end up using it and sticking with it. Safety and effectiveness comes before hype of a product making claims of removing more metals than anything else.

And you're full of . Sorry if i upset the Cutler fanatics on here. I understand that effective alternatives don't go down well on here.

hey sorry dental holocaust. I didnt know you had tried it already. I take back my premature comments. I really got the impression you spoke negatively for no real reason because I know a few people that do that about Cutler and have never tried the protocol.

Good on you for trying it. Sorry you didnt get the results though. Hope NDF gets you further. Good stuff that its eliminating more metals but kind of weird you havent felt better?

wow is someone a fanatic if they do well on something? Im just impressed by a protocol that yields results and helps people. I liked what I heard on this forum with those trying it. I wouldn't presume to be that insulting as to label anybody a fanatic for this reason.

And there's me thinking it was you who started the personal attacks.

Could we drop the melodramatics and hostility? My personal attack, as you called it was apologised for, which you ignored. Your broad insult to others on this forum in favor of Cutler lacked any form of apology. Real class.

Alternative health is discussed on this forum frequently between people. Were all seeking out the best of methods. Who freakin cares, so long as it works. Your negativitiy about that is without basis.

Give people some credit for acknowledging results from a protocol and spreading the word instead of being so negative and antagonistic because Cutlers method might be more popular. If it didnt work for enough people, it wouldnt hold any ground.

so what#s your personal experience with the cutler protocol?

It's a matter of you not having the brains to read between the lines into what i'm saying. You reckon things like NDF are hype? Your embarrassing yourself too much son. Now go away and haunt someone else.

wow, you chelated for 6 months, thats approx. 24 rounds and you had no improvement, not even temporary? What did you use, dmsa, dmps, ala?

Dental holocaust, Looks like you are incapable of having a discussion wtihout bitterising and insults. My intelligence is just fine. But if it makes you feel better by belittling it, all power to you.

Anon my experience with Cutlers protocol is relatively new. I have tried a few metal detox stuff like cilantro and other methods that havent seemed to have helped over the years. I tried Cutlers a couple of months ago and found it more effective. So im going with that for now and see how long it lasts. There are a hell of alot of different metal detox methods out there that it gets hard to know which one is the real mcoy and what is hype. Some make big claims but are pretty financially steep and the ones I tried didnt seem helpful. I like the fact that enough people are using Cutlers method and seeing results. I know about backfire testimonies and havent seen much of that with Cutlers. I feel pretty encouraged you could say.

Not a matter of belittling, matter of observation, such as..

"Its mercury thats the problem here and Cutler's method uses a far more rational and logical approach which is probably why many end up using it and sticking with it. Safety and effectiveness comes before hype of a product making claims of removing more metals than anything else."

Gross ignorance. Did you have your glasses on when i said that i have no healing crisis while using the maximum dose of NDF? "More rational and logical", you've taken that straight off the Cutler forums. Nice little cliche. Wonder why all the leading metal experts who are in clinic treating thousands of patients prefer to use other methods then. Continue with what works, i don't really care as long as it works.

who are the LEADING meta lexperts and where are these clinics.
There is one in London,UK that gives ALA on drip to get rid of metal, its very expensive but i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.

have you got any proof that people are getting cured using natural chelaters,is there a forum with peoples testimonials.

whats with the superiority complex?

Me needing glasses? I have been on a number of metal detoxes that didnt help me, I did not mention NDF. My cute little cliche which you seem to think I got from other forums, I got from my own experience. does it bother you this much?
These are not cliches, these are people's experiences which are as valid as yours. Are good experiences on Cutler just cute cliches? and good experiences on NDF valid? Have some respect.

I acknowledge you did not get a healing criss from all the NDF. Did you get improvements? If not, what point are you making by calling me grossly ignorant?

I dont consider myself grossly ignorant, I'm learning a heck of a lot on this forum and others, but in saying that just shows you up in a rather unpleasant manner. Removing mercury isnt a race. Didnt Dr Huggins say this too?

I dont know why all these metal detox experts you speak of prefer to use other methods. Plenty of people have been turning to Cutler's protocol and finding it helps. I dont know enough health experts that use the same method as to be completely confident in one way of going about it. They all seem to differ in how they chelate their patients. I found one that works. I'm glad.

Grab a sense of humour in your darkness.
Calm down Danny boy. Superior complex? Are you my psychologist?

lol this is funny. Your one big attempt at turning it all round after being so bitter and bent out of shape.

Give my regards to your psychiatrist, I have high hopes for you.

More than mercury that's wrong with you.

I saw this was a busy thread and came here to see what all the talk was about. I have to admit I'm finding it hard to find the essence of the actual subject though. This is sounding like a playground fight. If you two don't respect each other's views then why not just leave it at that, what is the name-calling accomplishing? We help and support each other here. There are a lot of ill people who need it.

Linda.

Can you not look at the big picture. I think you'll a few people on here do think i help and support, and that's from someone who is very ill, as you pointed out.

Yes absolutely, you've given some great advice here. I was really just asking if people could calm down a little here and re-focus. It's a downer to see things getting personal.

Yeah true, if you scroll up though you'll see who made the initial personal attack, and i despise inaccuracies.

Theres a couple of people here using cilantro, chlorella, etc who seem to be argumentative about things,maybe it doesnt work that well,just a thought!

please be kind to each other. I hope dental holocaust gets well and daniel recovers with cutlers protocol.

I personally prefer andy's protocol, i find it strange that dental holocaust had ZERO improvement with it. How many rounds did you do? What happened? Did you use ALA or the DMSA ALA combo?

And you had no change with NDF? Maybe metals isn't your problem?

You were apologised to by Daniel. Scroll up and re-read. I think you need to grow up a bit.

I use andy's protocol and I found your sweeping generalisations inaccurate and judgemental.

Let's get back to the original point of the thread.

I don't need to scroll up and re-read. I know what happened. And i refuse to rise to your bait.

Cilantro is great stuff. You can argue it isn't anon. I'll enjoy my bear and my sprig of ealing erbs and wake up brand new in the morning while you wonder and argue about it.

Cilantro is great stuff, no argument from me.

That explains it, "enjoyin a bear ... and wakin up brand new? " Ah mean, Ah love ma dog, ...
But hey, no argument from me neither on the cilantro. (long as ya got the fillins OUT )