Welp, if there's even one person out there who wants to get beyond the good Christians/bad Christians (or any Christians at all) drama bein played out here eatin it's own tail into eternity, there is always Michael Tsarion, a true alternative historian. Here is some real thought provokin stuff for peole who like to think an don't think they know it all already.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822Ah lost ma heart for this thread from the nastiness. Ah didn't like maself for stoopin to it. Ah coulda posted the Zeitgeist film without the first 1/3 talkin about solar religions. Ah had the mistaken thought that folks secure enough in their own beliefs would take it or leave it. Plus, any fool knows Jesus wadn't born Dec. 25th. but honestly folks,George Carlin the anti-Christ? Was thinkin that fella might be someone a bit bigger than a comedian, maself.
Didn't anabody go beyond that part an look at the political points a where we are right now? How world events are not how we are told they are? The money/power cotrolled media feedin an corruptin our very sick an purposely dumbed down society? This truly was the point a that film, apart from the obvious think for yourself message.
Anabody quotin an defendin the bible with a tone a scathing superiority an nasty personal attackin methods ain't exactly a very good representative for that religion, unless ya like that sort a thing.
Ah had to have a look at maself cuz a the slingin a insults goin on on the 2 threads Ah was foolish enough to start. Ah decided to look elsewhere there was trouble where Ah was not involved. Ah did not like what Ah saw. And no Pwcca, Ah think ya shoulda complained more when SS called ya "touchy feely wiccy "an then asked ya if he could call ya a Pwcc.. So, Ah guess Ah am not all to blame but Ah fell into the trap an for that Ah am responsible. This kind a communicatin isn't where Ah want to be , it just ain't for me anamores.
This is what Ah don't like more than anythin else an surly is why we will remain in this toxic world.
P.S. It ain't the Catholics, it's the Jesuits, hope Ah didn't spoil the mystery.
God bless