Linda, I have said (more than once now), that I do not believe either belief is necessary to be suggested in a science room in order to teach science.

I have faith in true science surviving very nicely without the requirement to push in a theory and call it science without any observable facts. I mentioned that I know a science teacher who does not teach evolution in his science class...and so far the kids are surviving nicely. He says he leaves that up to them and just teaches the rest. Nor does he mention intelligent design. Just teaches honest science without an agenda or bias. Suggestions can be tossed around by the students, but he says if he has no evidence for it, he doesn't feel comfortable about indoctrinating them on an assumption and have them believe it as fact. An idea/assumption/theory is put across in such a way that people have accepted that it's a fact and you are an example of this. Already convinced it's science, yet science is something you can prove, test, observe. Just because a theory excludes intelligent design Linda, doesn't suddenly make it science, or even logical. It is still a belief. Let's not forget here that we are talking about a THEORY, not a fact.

Once again, you are accusing me of the very thing you evolutionists are doing. You continue to call your belief "science", but nobody has yet seen any proof that evolution took place and that any creature was anything else, other than what we see and observe today and what recorded history has shown.

Beyond recorded/observed present/history, we start moving into ... what? The area into "anybody's guess" which is apparently owned by evolutionists who were not there. They do not need to provide any solid evidence, just assumptions. These assumptions of theirs that suit them very well and those like them, so long as it avoids any idea of intelligence/design.

I'm not interested in getting creationism into the science room. I'm just wondering why you find it ok that a belief is being taught in science, simply because its one that suits you. This isn't good enough Linda. Being opposed to the Christian belief still makes no sense to justify evolution in the science room, if it does not provide substantial scientific proof that shows one kind becoming another.

WHy not wipe out both and let the students think for themselves? I keep trying to get this through. What is wrong with teaching science without evolution?

Creation isn't suggested in science. Who is obligated to prove what here? I say to you that I have seen no proof that one kind was ever anything else other than what we have seen and what we see to this day.

Unless evolution finally comes up with a REAL transitional form, (not ongoing hoaxes), the world around me shows life/intellect produces the same and that is what we observe with all living creatures. We see dogs producing dogs, cats producing cats. Haven't yet seen any sign of a transitional form. Yet, you are suggesting to me that once upon a time it wasn't always that way without any solid evidence to back this claim up, nor justify why it's being taught as science.

So I have no problem at all that life and intellect creates life. The order we see today has always been throughout history. Beyond that.....anybody's guess but who has a right to have students believe a theory as fact. This is unscientific deception.