Thanks for the response Linda.

You say you are searching for truth, and I respect that. I wish more people were. I know that the best I can do in making these posts is to share my experience and knowledge and hope that some will benefit.

In searching for truth, there are three fundamental things we must have:

(1) Passion: We must be motivated enough to actually do something, that is, we must not be apathetic.

(2) Logic: We must know how to make logical deductions.

(3) Memory: We must have the confidence to build upon our conclusions to reach deeper conclusions.

Passion

This is where most people fail.

Before someone will endeavor on a search for truth, they must be motivated enough—they must care enough—to actually do something.

I'll be honest in telling you that I do not know the mechanism behind this motivation. I do not know the answer to this fundamental question: Why do some people care and other's don't?

My best guess is that it is spiritual.

Interestingly, Christ has some strong statements to say about those who don't care:

[color:"brown"]"...I would that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth."[/color]

—Revelation 3:15-16

Christ is clearly saying that you will be rejected by Him if you are apathetic, that is, if you don't care.

We recognize the rejection because of being vomited out. This is obviously a removal of something from His body, which is the (true) church (There are many organizations today posing as churches).

We recognize the passion to do good by the symbol "hot".

We recognize the passion to go evil by the symbol "cold".

We recognize apath by the symbol "lukewarm".

The interesting thing here is that He says that He would rather that a person was "cold" than "lukewarm". Yes, believe it or not, Christ would rather that a person is passionately evil than that they are apathetic. But why?

Because of this simple truth. A person who is passionately evil can —if they are willing—be converted to doing good if and when they gain the knowledge to see the error of their ways.

In fact, surprisingly few know that the man who wrote the majority of the New Testament, Paul, was a murderer of Christians until he was converted on the road to Damascus.

I also know that selflessness feeds passion.

Becoming a servant to others—such as when some travel to other third-world countries to help them—empowers them to become impassioned in life.

"And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth."

—Luke 22:25-27

Logic

This is another place where many people fail.

In my experience, most people are not capable of consistently making logical decisions because they do not know how to be humble.

I call humility "the hinge on the gate of knowledge" because without it, you will not come to correct conclusions leading to true knowledge.

Humility could be described as the process of getting ones self out of the way; being able to look past ourselves. Of course, the part of ourselves that many have a problem looking past is our emotions.

Our emotions color our view. They hinder us from being able see clearly or to make logical decisions. This is why many make poor (illogical) decisions when they are in a strong emotional circumstance.

Being able to completely remove ourselves from a decision making process—or deciding what is logical in a given situation—is a skill that we must work at to attain, and it is well worth the investment.

Our passion helps us attain humility by empowering us to invest the time and effort necessary to achieve it.

The antithesis of humility is pride, which is of course, the first recorded luciferian sin.

Memory

The ability to build conclusion upon conclusion is a function of memory. Without it, we would never get off the ground.

Memory could be considered a skill that can be improved if one has the passion to do so.

Since memory can be colored by emotions, humility is vital to be sure that we accurately maintain the conclusions we make.

And Others

There are a myriad of other factors that also affect these attributes above, since all of the parts of us interact with all of the other parts of us—either directly or indirectly—in some way and in some variable proportion.

For example, humility can help lead one to purity.

So

In attempting to be a help to people searching for truth—because I care—I have the drive to find out why people don't finish this great race. Here's what I've found.

Because the only two primary driving factors in people are fear and love, if someone does not have love, the only motivator remaining is fear.

Now, to some, promoting fear in people may sound primitive and cruel (an emotional deduction), but if you're truly helping and protecting people in the process, it's actually a blessing in disguise.

For example, if your child insists on continuing to attempt to stick their fingers in electrical sockets, you may eventually have to resort to some kind of threatened punishment that causes fear in them in order to get them to stop. Of course, this is an act of love on your part although it may be interpreted as an act of cruelty on the part of the child (the role we play with God).

In the early days of the American Church, "hell, fire and brimstone" styles of preaching were also acts of love by the preachers, although the immature among us may have despised it, it was indeed for our own good, so long as the object of the belief system is true, namely, salvation through the Biblical-God's work through Christ.

Today

The reason the corporate world today is so focused on sensuality is because it sells. The reason the entertainment world is so focused on these things is because it heightens the emotions making the pursuit of truth much more difficult because it interferes with #2 (humility) above.

Remember the story of the bear and the wolf? Which one does the world today "feed"?

Finally

The powers-that-be today are using techniques to interfere with as many of the above-mentioned factors as possible in an effort to snuff out the successful search for truth which eventually leads to the integrity of the Bible.

#1: Passion:
Mercury, fluoride and confusion induce apathy.

#2: Logic
Mercury, fluoride, confusion, sensuality, drama, and materialism induce pride.

#3: Memory
Mercury, fluoride, aluminum (in vaccines and chemtrails), and revisionists-historians induce memory-loss.



I would hope that you explore the things I have said because, although I know that your mind will change no time soon, some of the things I've said will be very pertinent in the future and will hopefully stimulate the memory of these things.

You see, if the scripture that I have posted about the coming anti-Christ is accurate, you would want to know how to identify him, wouldn't you?

"And it causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark on their right hand, or in their foreheads, even that not any might buy or sell except those having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name. Here is the wisdom. Let him having reason count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. And its number is six hundred and sixty-six."

—Revelation 13:16-18

Those who receive this mark cannot receive salvation:

"The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

—Revelation 14:10-12

If this scripture is true, the act of posting it is an act of love.


The difference here is that I've searched it out and after a lot of work, I've come to a conclusion.

Of course my belief in the Biblical God colors what I say. The real question is:

Is my conclusion about the Bible and the Biblical God colored?

That is the question I want to encourage people to explore, because I know that if people persist and find what I've found, their lives will be immeasurably improved, and I want that for people, not to mention the profound future implications.


I would want to encourage your to explore whether your instincts have really rarely steered you wrong. If I am right about the Bible, than your instincts are not quite-so-often accurate.

The reason I say this is not to insult you. I say this because I used to be the same way as you.

I used to "trust my instincts" and eventually came to wonder why my life didn't turn out the way I wanted it to. Now I know.

The problem was that my "instincts" weren't always my instincts. I was making a fundamental error and confusing my "instincts" with my emotion some of the time.

Now, I agree that people have instincts (in this context, I use the word "intuition", because "instincts" actually refers to the BIOS—or provided knowledge—that I spoke about in an earlier post; I say this to help avoid confusion) but what I was doing is finding that those instincts, although right about matters of daily life, were incorrect when discerning deeper matters. Because of this, I went on a long search to try and find out what I was doing wrong. What I found was this.

I was able to access my "instincts" (intuition) in some situations but I was accidentally accessing my emotions in other situations. In short, I was confusing the two in certain contexts.

The remedy for this was to exercise my "instincts" by first testing my instincts by using logic to determine in what types of situations they were right and in what types of situations they were wrong, and in doing this, I would some very interesting patterns.

I found that in matter of day-to-day life, my instincts were amazingly accurate, but in matters pertaining to spiritual discernment, they were not so often right, in fact, I was not really using instinct in that context. I was actually using emotion. I believe this very type of confusion is very common today.

This mistake is easy to make because the two feel amazingly similar. It take exercise and practice to actually be able to tell the difference between the two, but again, it is well worth the work.

This is exactly what I believe your issue is. I simply believe that you are doing what I used to do: Confusing emotions with instincts in some contexts.

The good news is that this skill can be heightened with practice.


This is plain to see, and it's nothing strange. We all do it to some degree or another.

The key is to practice and learn to tell the difference between what I call "intuition" and "emotion".

I'm sure I said enough about this above.


God does communicate with and work through people, sometimes knowingly and sometimes unknowingly, but His contact with us is different from one person to the next. Here's why.

"(Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?"

—Numbers 12:3-8

In a word: Humility.


I will share what I've found out about these vast factual evidences:

They are lies.

It takes work to find this out, but just as dealing with a good con artist takes work to muttle through all the lies, it takes work to get to the bottom about the vast lies used to promote evolution.

The process to do this is to research the "evidences" one-by-one. If you are prudent in doing this, you will find what I found—lie after lie—a mountain of lies.

Any why all these lies?

To discredit the Bible (evolution and the Bible are mutually exclusive) so that people would—in large—cease reading it and would therefore—in ignorance—submit to the centralization (socialism) of power and ensuing corruption that will follow, that knowledge of Biblical principles would otherwise prevent.

The methods they use to create and promote these lies are not magic. It is simply a coordinated effort by a group of people who give "benefits" (bribes) for the promotion of these lies in the form of funding, research grants, consultant fees, etc., etc.

Just like the safety of Nutrasweet was "proven scientifically" by a technician who was paid $30,000 to say that a group of test mice ate phenylalanine (an amino acid in Nutrasweet) when they did not eat it. I actually saw this story years ago when it originally aired on the news program 60 Minutes.

Soon after the story, Nutrasweet began a large advertising campaign on the same network ($$$) and then the occasional news story about the neurotoxin was bright and cheerful on that same network.

This is the way it really works. The same holds true with evolution and so for amalgams.


Censoring your exposure to information and pre-deciding your positions is not a good method to use in the search for truth, honestly.

I would strongly suggest that if anyone wants to find some amazing and life-changing information, they search out the Bible and put it to the test. Be sure to do your homework, though, because the con artist's rampage against the Bible is thick and heavy. It can be done, however.

I would suggest studying Biblical gematria and prophecy. It is astounding.


I believe that what it achieves in your life is entirely up to you.


I certainly want to support people in that endeavor as well.


Apparently, you're speaking about some sect of the catholic church: And you won't go back? I can hardly blame you. I wouldn't either. In fact, I didn't. (I've been there.)

The vast majority of the people I know who have parents in the catholic, methodist, or any of the other of the "systematized" churches don't go, and again, I can hardly blame them.

The vital thing to remember is that the church is an organism, not an organization. The catholic church is actually the velvet glove on the iron fist of the Vatican and is the religious front for the Jesuits. In other words, this is not the church; quite the opposite.

I would hope and expect that few go back there after being exposed.


Sin is an imperfection.

Unfortunately, some don't understand the reason that some sins are considered sins.

In short, when you have a complex and free society, there are many different things that you can do in the society that are destructive to the society or to yourself. These are called sins. The reason some people don't understand why some sins like homosexuality are considered sins is because they simply haven't yet drawn the lines from point A to point B long enough to realize how this behavior hurts the self and the society as a whole.

If you don't know how a transistor works, you will never understand how a television works. Precept upon precept. This takes study.

Understanding how these behaviors are harmful takes time and work. Tragically enough, this is work that many fail to ever perform.

By naming sins, God is not attempting to make us feel bad or remove our liberty. He is simply teaching us how to conduct a healthy society because quite frankly, we are too dumb to do it ourselves, and that by our own apathy. (Sticking our fingers in an electrical outlet is not true liberty, although some mistakenly consider it as such.)

God does, after all, take the guilt away, but that's another story.


The only one who can do this is one who is perfect.


Your experience in your parent's church has nothing to do with the God I know.


You are taking a view from 10,000 feet and applying to the whole painting.

There are three types of "rules" in the Bible: ordinance, statutes, and laws. (You are glumping the three together into one and making assumptions that lead to wrong conclusions.)

Since the nature of mankind does not change, the laws that govern free civilizations does not either. The only "changes" were supposed to be changes in the way the existing law was applied to new situations.

This concept was well understood by the forefathers of the United States and was employed in the concept of Congress, who did not make laws in the context of Biblical laws. They only made laws in the context of applying existing eternal law to new situations that would arise.

This system worked very well except when it was tampered with as in the events leading up to the civil war and in "laws" passed in 1913, 1930, and 1933 as mentioned in an earlier post. The hand of evil was fast at work while people eventually became apathetic.

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

—1 Corinthians 6:9-11

"effeminate" (Thayer)
1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaphorically in a bad sense
2a) effeminate
2a1) of a catamite
2a2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
2a3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
2a4) of a male prostitute


Your mistake here is forgetting that I am a skeptic. I never easily accepted the Bible as truth. I was tormenting towards the Bible and very skeptical of it and offended by Christ.

(By ignoring my emotions) The only way I began to accept it was through the study of prophecy (how it foretold the future) and gematria (the study of numbers in the Bible). There is truly nothing else like it that I have ever found. It is astounding and I encourage you to try having the smallest amount of faith in what I'm saying and studying it. Or perhaps you'd prefer to read an interesting book like:

Number in Scripture by Bullinger. This is a great introduction to the subject.

Remember, sitting ducks don't study.


This is a bad thing and is not Biblical.

"Bring all the tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house. And test Me now with this, says Jehovah of Hosts, whether I will not open the windows of the heavens for you and pour out a blessing until there is no sufficiency of room to store it."

—Malachi 3:10

I once, in a time of financial desperation, decided to test God.

I promised that I would, as an act of faith, give the last $20 that I had to the Church that I was attending if God would help me pay my bills. I had no money left.

As I left the Church building, I had a part-time job offer from someone at the church. As I drove down my street, my neighbor, who owned a handy-man business, flagged me down and offered me double my current salary to help him in the mornings to paint part-time before I went to work (I worked a night shift) starting the next day. As I pulled in my driveway, my roommate was signaling me to come in because I had a phone call. It was an old high school friend who happens to own the largest DJ service in Florida asking if I would do DJ work for him on the weekends starting that weekend. Before the day ended, I had 2 other job offers which I had to turn down because I just didn't have any time left to do them with the offers I had just received.

You see, God honored my promise and gave me more than I could receive. No, He didn't give me money. He gave me the opportunity to work and make money. My financial situation turned around in a hurry.


You don't now, but before too long, you will see some very interesting things begin to happen in the world, and although you won't recognize the patterns that have happened over and over throughout history, you may bring this conversation back to mind and then perhaps, through the motivation of fear, you will begin to really study these things.


Here's more information:

Biblical Sorcery and Modern Drugs


Remember, catholic is not Christian, people's view are often not Biblical, and attitudes are not Godly.

God simply attempts to protect us from harming ourselves by laying out a few simple rules such as monogamy.

Further, in the context of marriage, God tells us not to resist the body of our spouse's. In this healthy context (marriage), what you do is up to you.

"The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency."

—1 Corinthians 7:4-5

Not so bad, is it?

By the way, marriage is not sealed by some "officer" of the state. It is a private vow between God, you, and your spouse.


Not only that, but the bond between a husband and a wife is stronger when the sex is outrageous, and that can only be when neither of them are desensitized.

God wants us to have the best and most powerful relationship we can in all aspects. He also wants to be sure it is healthy and empowering and contributing to the longevity of the family.


Government = FDA = Big Pharma...

In purpose... no real difference.


Things like this happen because too large of a percentage of a populace becomes apathetic and/or selfish and the promotion of sensuality accentuates this effect.

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."

—Edmund Burke


That's only how they seem until you really study them through.

I've been there Linda.


It may be hot air for some, but these are the issues of life to others.

I'm glad to be able to respond to skepticism. I truly hope some will benefit from this dialog. Perhaps even you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />