I will—over time—attempt to address the many layers of this issue, however, both the issues of circumcision and homosexuality are not easily understood without understanding some fundamental principles. I've said this before: "You have to understand certain fundamental principles before you can understand the higher ones."

Unfortunately, many people don't understand even the fundamental principles and therefore have little hope of understanding the higher ones. On the other hand, I have done my research and I have put the pieces of the puzzle together, and I will tell you this:

Things will happen within our lifetimes (perhaps soon, but I don't know the timelines, only the sequence of events) that will stun those who have not done their homework. You will see and experience things on a global scale that not only have been foretold in the Bible, but will catch most by surprise.

As far as trying to make an argument without using "religious" references...

I attempted to explain this in other threads but it has been largely ignored. I wish it were not ignored because it is valuable.

There is a huge difference between religions and the Bible. This is a fundamental principle that people can learn if they care enough to do some research, however, if people do not understand this, then they don't have even the beginnings of a foundation to understand higher principles involving homosexuality and circumcision. I don't mean to be condescending in any way towards anybody. I am simply telling the truth about building principles upon principles.

For those who don't understand the underlying principles necessary to see that homosexuality is harmful (not only to the ones practicing it but to society as a whole) you would have to look at history to gain any insight as all. It may be helpful for some of these to see that the fall of many civilizations was closely proceeded by a sharp rise in the practice of homosexuality. This is not a coincidence. I will add that the only reason for the dramatic funding and wide media promotion of this "lifestyle" is that it ultimately produces a social effect that facilitates the centralization of power, which is, of course, what global government is all about. The irony is that those who believe they are practicing "liberty" are the central victims of these who promote lies and grossly slander the Bible.

Again, to understand the connection, you have to understand several underlying layers of principles.

I often end my posts by saying:

"The evidence is there for those who care."

I say this to expose the principle that truth can be found by anyone who wants to find it, but you have to be passionate about it, and your passion in this area will naturally lead to research and seeking of evidence, and I have found that there is no lack of evidence. Anyone who does the work will discover the same.

"Those who care" are the only ones who will discover these principles and be prepared when the fruition of events comes because "those who care" will be the only ones who put in the time to research the truth in these things. The rest of society relies on emotionally-based decisions forming their belief system based on their own desires, not evidence, and therefore, this emotionalism does not result in an intellectual position. It is simply emotionalism which is heavily promoted in todays society, and this to a specific end and purpose to the benefit of the few and the harm of the many.

I know because I've been there and done that.

For those who care to understand what life is about, what the world is here for, and what is going to happen in the future would do well to study Bible prophecy, for the Bible has more to say about the times that are about to come upon us than it does about the times that Christ walked the Earth.

"If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

—Revelation 13:9-18