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#22184 07/21/07 09:02 AM
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I wish u all the best here guys, I hope you all have a fantastic life, I have been plagued with bad luck all my life, some people are just not meant to be.

#22185 07/21/07 11:54 AM
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Hi Jinx.....I feel that that every morning. But I drag my butt out of bed and then start to feel better, but it is a tough row to hoe at times, but we have to keep on plugging.

Tracy felt pretty low at times but when I read her posts lately, I can tell she is improving dailly. And you will too, just don't give up. How about changing your forum name to one with more positive connotations.

Hope you feel better soon,
Sandi
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Jinxx, Don't look to the mess mankind has made of this planet and our lives! Look at the beauty in small things-- ignore the ugly and evil - it will always be there but dont get distracted from the beautiful in life! and that means even admiring Nature and color-- Things that are free.

Hang in there Jinxx - You also have us who care for you on this forum so life is even worth living just for that! We're all healing together-- we all need each other

hugs xoxox

Boldyloxx!


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#22187 07/21/07 02:42 PM
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Ah think Sandi an Boldy's thoughts are real important, an the name change might be a good idea, too. Names have power , an Sandi, what with the Flood part, Ah'm relieved to know ya got an ark.

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Hey J,

Have you looked at other possible causes. Are you possibly exposed to mold? This also causes horrible health issues that are hard to diagnose.


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#22189 07/21/07 06:43 PM
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Jinx, your title is apt, yes life IS evil. But you are not. If it were not for those like yourself that actually keep me believing that there is good in this world, I would not have lasted.

NOt that this is much comfort to you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

#22190 07/22/07 12:14 AM
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I don't believe in the idea of bad luck. When your life is unhappy and things seem to be going poorly, I believe it is a message from G-D that you should make changes in your life. You should examine what you are doing, and decide how you should improve. Viewing oneself objectively is not easy.

I used to be very selfish but am much less so today. I went for many years giving almost nothing to charity. I didn't care very much about most people. I am quite different now.

#22191 07/23/07 05:51 AM
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Life isnt evil. its how you make of it.

#22192 07/23/07 05:57 AM
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not always! Its what your dealt with in life that can sometimes make it evil.

#22193 07/24/07 08:36 AM
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why are all anymonymous postes jack***es?!!?

message from god to change this and that, life is what you make of it blah blah... WELL GUESS WHAT?!? I'M F**KING GOINF INSANE AND THERE'S ***NOTHING*** I CAN DO ABOUT IT, I DONT HAVE THE LUXURY OF CHOICE!!!

yeah you heard me, I'm 10 times worse than a week ago, I CAN I CANT I CANT think anymore, I FORGOT WHO I AM, HAVE NOTHING BUT CONFUSION AND DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND ME ANYMORE, I FEEL LIKE A PSYCHOPATH WHO ALL OF A SUDDEN STARTED HATING PEOPLE AND AM "AFRAID" (BECAUSE I'M REALLY NOT, I STOPPED TO CARE) I WILL DO HARM TO SB OR MYSELF. SO YEAH THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, SO DONT TELL ME LIFE ISN'T EVIL, IT'S THE WORST THING THAT'S HAPPENNED TO ME BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY EVERYTHING THAT A MAN SHOULD HAVE :

FREE F**KING WILL!!!!!

YEAH I JUST WANT TO SCREAM AT THE F**KING INJUSTICE OF AL OF THIS, IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY OUT, BUT GUESS WHAT?!?! THERE ISN'T CAUSE I'M NOT IN A SHAPE TO START ANY CHELATION NOW, AND EVEN IF I DID I CAN'RT BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TWO FILLINGS WHICH I NEED TO GET RID F**KING EXPOSING MYSELF TO MORE MERCURY THE SAME WAY IT HAS SCREWED ME UP 10MONTHS AGO, NO SUPPLEMENTS, DIET HELP AND I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING AND YOU'RE TELLING LIFE ISN'T EVIL!??!
SCREEW YOU LUCKY BA$$^^&, YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN!!!!

#22194 07/24/07 09:18 AM
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Chill out. I have been going through a challenging time as well. A few weeks after getting seven amalgams removed I developed nasty candida infections in my mouth. I feel like I am finally making good progress defeating them. I have been using grapefruit seed extract. These infections have been making me feel horrible. I have felt drained of energy, have had plenty of muscle ache, and have had trouble concentrating. I try to keep things in perspective, and do what I can to heal myself. For a long while I was taking St. John's Wort and that helped me greatly. Others use prescription antidepressants. The internet is a great tool for researching treatments.

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you're a moron, I guess you haven't read what I've written at all.

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This breathing CD helped me huge

http://store.soundstrue.com/aw00445d.html

then detoxed my liver with a gentle homeopathic remedy with liver and gall bladder sarcodes, then chelation later, GABA 30c may work to chill you down - www.elixirs.com

Maybe you can find a chiropractor that can unblocked some of your meridians, not the type that "cracks" your neck - there are new ones out there now... have to search

#22197 07/24/07 10:51 AM
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Jinx I think you must get those amalgams out and chelate. Take lots and lots of vitamin C (grams, not milligrams) and Algin on the day.

Have you looked for a doctor who can help you? Have you had your mercury levels tested by anyone?

#22198 07/24/07 11:12 AM
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i dont think there is one safe dentist for jinx to use in poland, thats why hes stuck. i feel for you jinx, i have been there its bloody cruel! hang in there, Dawn.

#22199 07/25/07 04:26 PM
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jinx, you cant travel to an other country or is it for financial reasons?

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Jinx, do you think that if you had a mercury test done and it showed high levels, your parents would then believe you? Is it possible that they would then be willing to help you? Have you had any medical assistance yet from anyone?

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Jinx, perhaps if you go on a low carb anti candida diet and take some fungicides you might start doing better? I suggest using grapefruit seed extract. Start out slow though, perhaps 3 drops in 8 ounces of water 3 times a day, then gradually increase it to 6 drops in 8 ounces of water 8-12 times a day. That has helped me greatly, especially with the confusion/mental fog I was experiencing.


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anon- financial

Linda - thing is, I had a urine test done and it's result was negative (yes negative, cause they didn't even give the numbers) but urine doesn't reflect body burden anyway so it's not reliable , yet the doc from the occupational medicine center where I had the test done repeated the same cliched bs that amalgams are safe and he's never heard of it posing any threat, lol his terminology made me crack cause he responded to me saying I was poisoned at the dentists office that the mercury was only "the size of the tip of a finger" lol like it didn't matter how poisonous mercury vapours are and that there might be individual sensitivity, yet the more I tried to explain the more he was convinced and he stopped me in the middle of my argumentation saying that he's heard enough and that he knows what's wrong with me, he had the nerve not even being a psychiatrist with me acting relatively normally, after talking to me for like 20 minutes to tell me that I had schizophrenia and needed treatment. His argument was that some time ago there was a young guy in whose blood was found Pb and he become so worried and focused over it that he became schizophrenic in effect, lol I concluded there was no point asking him whether it was possible the man was schizophrenic as a result of untreated Pb poisoning, and of course when I asked him where did schizophrenia come from he replied "We dont know".

But it was enough for my mother who was with me to believe it. Despite that my parents are still willing to help me, but we are constrained with finances , yet I bet if I had a confirmed metal poisoning they would care more.

and yeah I've been to a holistic doc and he confirmed candida, heavy metals plus other things and gave me homeopathics but quite frankly they haven't helped much I am still worse overall.

#22203 07/25/07 05:46 PM
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thats sad that you cant get treatment because of your financial situation. How much money would you need for removal? I have been in a similiar situation but im lucky - i had my amalgams removed and im in a solid financial position.

If its not an astronomic figure i might be able to help you. I dont care if you can pay it back or not. let me know.

#22204 07/25/07 07:00 PM
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To the anon above...
I have to say that you have made a generous offer to Jinx. In spite of the insults that some have made in regards to Anons, you have been able to set that aside and stay on track with the mercury poisoning. You seem to be very compassionate. And, yes, anti fungals are making a different in my life. I have been using oil or oregano, but I plan to try grapefruit seed extract.

#22205 07/26/07 06:18 AM
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to anon who offered financial assistance. i may be better to post jinx private, thanks

#22206 07/26/07 06:24 AM
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no, no need dawn.

anon, it's very generous and kind of you to offer this help, but simply I can't accept it. but thank you anyway I see you have a great heart.

I guess I have to go back on my words concerning all anons.

#22207 07/26/07 12:52 PM
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Have to give homeopathics 12 months

Hopefully treating the liver and gall bladder first

#22208 07/26/07 12:55 PM
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Why not accept the help Jinx - get help, get better, share ur experience and help others in time.
If theres a way out TAKE IT!!!
Yeah i know about hate and anger... but while we have that energy source and the ability to express it, to FEEL (even though it is so awful) then Hg hasnt won.
THANKYOU for keeping on going, because it helps me keep going too.

Virago x

#22209 07/26/07 03:28 PM
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Does anyone listen to anyone. Some of these replies are so pointless. It must drive Jinx even more insane to read some of this stuff. Mercury test? Shall we all get one then and everyone will believe us. What, anyone who has been through the Mercury crap knows there isn't a damn test to convince anyone. Which one did you have Linda Lou? Just out of interest if you havnt got symptoms other than depression why the hell are you chelating?

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I'm genuinely trying to help, like most other people here. My knowledge is no doubt limited, I am trying to learn. Can do without the insulting personal questions thanks.

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there isnt a test thats worth doing, you might aswell spend the money on supplements, but i just want to add, that depression is the biggest symptom of mercury poisoning and the worst.

#22212 07/26/07 05:27 PM
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Jinx is right life is bloody evil to some of us, just keeps piling on and on. I now have my mum in hospital, having taken an overdose. 2 years ago she would never have dreamt of such a thing I think I have given her my Eptein Barr virus as all her physical and mental symptoms fit. I watch her sitting in that hospital bed mentally confused with a dislocated spine where she fell eating smaties like a baby, and a heart murmer from taking the tablets. If youd seen my mum 2 years ago she was the most dignified person, beautiful for her age and so stable. Now what have I done to her ?she has exactly the same physical and mental symptoms as me....Epstein Barrs spot on. and Im still testing positive Ive been robbed, so has my family and my dear beautiful mum. Yes Jinx I agree life is bloody evil. Tracy

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Venting usually helps, which I guess is what you are doing here
But stop wallowing in self pity and self-loathing, and keep trying

Edit Woah I was just replying to the first post
After reading more information, I'm pretty sure these are just your usual run of the mill self centered teenage ideas, give it time for maturity and perspective, trust me you are not even close to having hit rock-bottom

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Hell to the anonymous donating financial assistance, I will take it hehe
My arms are full of scars from donating plasma to finally be able to pay for my amalgam removal, I just need a little more to pay for the chelating, which donating plasma won't be a good idea with a weak immune system

#22215 07/27/07 12:32 AM
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Jinx and Kriminal, have you guys heard of this organisation
http://www.jigsawhealth.org/

Apparently they help with financing people with their amalgam removals (those on low incomes).....just thought I'd pass that on. Could be worth a try.


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Kriminal a) None of us are teenagers and b) how are you an expert on how anyone is feeling apart from yourself. You can only judge your own life. Remarks like that, are the same as pull yourself together. Some of us have been having to do that for years. Most people on this forum don't judge others situations nor bring them down lower. Shame you feel that way.

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Bex, from what I've gathered they only sponsor people from within the States, I dont think there's any possibility for a guy like me from Poland to get funded plus there is no biological dentist in my area.

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Hi Jinx, I should have realised! Sorry about that. It's just a shocker that Poland does not have a biologic dentist! If there is one, he/she is staying well hidden.


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Well Poland's always been behind you know, only 3 years ago did join the EU and it has been a communism free country for only like 17 years. It will take a while before the bio-dentist trend will hit here.

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Kriminal a) None of us are teenagers and b) how are you an expert on how anyone is feeling apart from yourself. You can only judge your own life. Remarks like that, are the same as pull yourself together. Some of us have been having to do that for years. Most people on this forum don't judge others situations nor bring them down lower. Shame you feel that way.
I didn't say you were all teenagers, I said jinx probably is, since she/he is talking about convincing his/her mom

Btw jynx from what I have gathered test are meaningless, different people react different to toxicity and mercury poisoning won't show up always in the tests
At least your parents are supportive, but don't bet "all-in" on amalgams, it could be something else too. The symptoms for mercury poisoning are similar to hundreds of other conditions.
Save money and get them removed yourself, you will never know for sure if they are affecting you until they are gone and you chelated. Don't give up, at least until you find out.

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kriminal -

1)I'm 24
2)I'm a male
3) self pity? self loathing? immaturity? not even close to hitting rock-bottom?? Well let me tell you something. I was a working and I think a mature person 12 months ago. Quite succesfull and intelligent. After exposure from just two fillings drilled out, my mental functioning started RAPIDLY declining! I have no iq anymore and dont understand basic things. This state I have been in is getting worse and worse everyday, it's going fast enough for me to notice it. EACH DAY I feel more of my brain, the lights shut down/go out. And yeah perhaps I do feel like a self-centered teenager now, but that does not come from immatiruty but from what this disease does to your brain. In my wildest expactaion I never thought my functioning I would get bad so much - Never. But I have and I'm only 24 and I don't if ti's gonna be reversible at all given how much possible (surely fuctional) damage has been done. And as for relying on my parents it's not about them making decisions, it's about them giving me support which I SO MUCH NEED and money since I'm so sick I can't work anymore. So don't preach me about not knowing what hitting rock bottom is, if you dont know anything about me. Though I know you wish me well, truth is I'm getting alzheimer-like disease and I can't do anything about it.

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KRIMINAL, PLEASE APOLOGISE TO JINX!
YOU HAVNT A CLUE AND I THINK YOU SHOULD APOLOGISE FOR SAYING SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

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it's ok dawn, he doesn't need to. just wish people weren't jumping to conclusions so quickly (an overall observation, not just about kriminal).

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Dear Jinx, you know people like me and Dawn understand. Im not saying that everyone on this forum isnt going through some really tough censored and I feel for everyone, we've all got crap to deal with, but aome of us are truly worse than others. I sont know why, I wish I did. I only know how hard the poeople I know well have tried and some are suffering horrifically. And like Jinx and I know Dawn and many others before this illness we were tough, working and happy and life was great and we have fought with all we've got to get that back, but for some of us its just not happening. Love to all Tracy x

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1)I'm 24
2)I'm a male
3) self pity? self loathing? immaturity? not even close to hitting rock-bottom?? Well let me tell you something. I was a working and I think a mature person 12 months ago. Quite succesfull and intelligent. After exposure from just two fillings drilled out, my mental functioning started RAPIDLY declining! I have no iq anymore and dont understand basic things. This state I have been in is getting worse and worse everyday, it's going fast enough for me to notice it. EACH DAY I feel more of my brain, the lights shut down/go out. And yeah perhaps I do feel like a self-centered teenager now, but that does not come from immatiruty but from what this disease does to your brain. In my wildest expactaion I never thought my functioning I would get bad so much - Never. But I have and I'm only 24 and I don't if ti's gonna be reversible at all given how much possible (surely fuctional) damage has been done. And as for relying on my parents it's not about them making decisions, it's about them giving me support which I SO MUCH NEED and money since I'm so sick I can't work anymore. So don't preach me about not knowing what hitting rock bottom is, if you dont know anything about me. Though I know you wish me well, truth is I'm getting alzheimer-like disease and I can't do anything about it.
Well I realize I am not really a motivational speaker, Im more of a fan of the tough love. Your posts sound too melodramatic, and I know brain symptoms are not a thing to take lightly, but you do have to know you don't have it that bad. With more perspective you can realize you are not even close to hitting rock bottom.
You have a family, you speak english so you are probably american or british two of the most important commodities as far as citizenship goes (people would kill to have them), you have a computer and education, you are not starving like some poor soul in a third world country trying to maintain his family.
I'm not just going to say look at the upside of life and admire the rainbows and stars, but realize you don't have it as bad as you think.
You have your crosshairs aimed at the problem, at least you know what the problem and solution can be. Knowledge can give you hope, at least you came by herballure, there are probably thousands feeling your symptoms without knowing what the hell is up with them. YOU CANNOT GIVE UP JUST YET.
With despair come foolish ideas, do not let them in, dont even start thinking about giving up or hurting yourself. Realize if you do, you are taking a knife and stabbing both your parents in the heart
I really wish you the best

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kriminal you clearly dont know what you're talking about , and I hope for your sake you won't have the opportunity to find out.

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Guys,

Can I make a suggestion? Let's just try to help Jinx with some actual suggestions - which many have been doing - rather than arguing about how he's handling the situation.

Jinx, I am not one to belittle mercury exposure in the slightest. However, I personally thought my own issues were mercury related, and they may be, but other interventions helped dramatically. I had bad brain fog, headaches, vertigo, and facial numbness. All have gone away.

I know you've tried a lot of supplements, but here are the ones I think that helped me. A B complex, about 10 mgs a day (cut the 50 mg one down). Flax meal. Whey protein powder. A tiny bit of copper every few days (about 1 mg). And iodine - I ordered Iodoral online and take about 2 mgs a day.

Perhaps you can try some of these things; again, I know you've tried a bunch of things.

Jinx, your problems are very, very real and very, very distressing. No doubt about it. But I still think there's some cause for hope, and I want you to fight this thing as best you can. Try some new stuff like copper and iodine. It just might help.

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kriminal, its not like jinx is depressed about his lot in life, MERCURY HAS POISONED HIM, UNDERSTAND THIS, ITS NOT ABOUT HIS LIFE, MONEY, FAMILY, ETC, ITS ABOUT BEING POISONED WITH A DEADLY SUBSTANCE WHICH HAPPENED TO ME, SO I DO KNOW, THE ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, ALZEIMER SYMPTOMS, BRAIN FOG COME AND TAKE HOLD AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO. NO DOCTOR CAN HELP, WE HAVE THESE FORUMS TO GET SUPPORT.
dawn.

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I agree, often the person undergoing this type of toxicity is misunderstood and judged for the behaviour that comes from the mercury, rather than them. Had this most of my life. You have to have the toxicity in such a manner in order to understand and see what it's truly capable of doing to a person's mind and character. You can throw any words you want to describe it "self pity" "melodramatic" "unpleasant and aggressive (had all those), but they do not even come close to describing the person's true character, it's just another typical manipulation of mercury.

When I am under this toxin, I'm a nightmare to live with and I mean I am dramatic, aggressive, I feel sorry fr myself, "Im suffering more than anybody" etc etc. It is that torturous, the person truly feels they are in a form of hell on earth. Though unfortunately the respones they have from being this toxic are not well received or perceived by others. I do not blame other people for that because I too would judge in exactly the same manner had I not gone through it myself or had it in quite the manner I did!

Jinx, I seem to recall you said you were having amalgams out in September? Let me know. Because when that day comes, know that you are totally free to chelate and I am hoping that there will be a breakthrough from that over time, but I can totally understand your fear about the entire procedure and post response! Just know you got friends on here supporting you and I do not think Kriminal meant any malice to you, I have had the same stuff said to me from others and when you are outside of the mercury you suddenly see why they saw it that way, even if it was misdirected!

Jinx, I am still hoping that when you get this stuff completely out of your mouth, though we know it is another risk to your already unstable condition that another go with DMSA andy cutler style may start to stablise some of this. I know there are no certainties in life, but somehow there has to be a way of breaking this cycle of ongoing chronic exposure mixed in with the acute exposure you received from your last replacement. If you can turn the tap off in the mouth by amalgam removal, it has at least shut "one" part off. No it is far from perfect, but are there are any other answers? Apart from attempting to support your system right now as much as you can with a proper diet and supplements that support you also.


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