Indeed, like any business where one deals with people like yourself. Fortunately it's a Christian business so we don't get too much of it, the bulls only show up looking for favors mostly and we don't do favors, it's a good way to get into trouble. We just sort of process the bulls and their crap out the door and in a different direction. they can get their own shovel. I've been handling it that way for almost 8 years now so I'm real sure it's effective.