wow Linda, excuse me, but dont you think that was rather patronising? that somehow intelligent people could possibly believe in intelligent design? Well I could return the compliment.

I am thankful that some honest and gutsy scientists, rather than going with the flow and fitting in the the crowd of their evolutionary colleagues and were not afraid to admit what they were finding with their studies (intelligent design)...perhaps Linda you feel they too are a little bit...."misguided"? Most of them have already been evolutionists themselves. This is why they are lethal in debates.

There are arguments on both sides of the fence and if science leads a scientist (or layperson) to see that God's word may not be a bunch of fairy tales...where is the issue?

I suggest if you really think we're misguided and in the dark, perhaps you'd be interested to hear about a man called Jonathan Sarfati? plenty of science students are taking his book onboard and becoming an increasing threat to the science teachers...."Refuting Evolution" is the name of this book.

Linda, you feel that it's amazing that anybody intelligent could possibly believe in creation? If you really read some of the books or watced the videos, the evidence is compelling and far from idiotic. Certainly, a creationist would be easilly made mince meat of if this were so and believe me they are no push overs. Far from it.

Certainly your view on Christ is not shared by me and I dare say many others also. I've heard it all before Linda. And it doesn't come close to 2000 years of history and supernatural miracles and interventions in Christ's name. Just as He said it would happen. And in HIs day, He spoke to His disciples and told them preach the good news. Those who do not wish to know or believe? Shake the dust from your feet. You are are one of many that attempts to discredit and deny the divinity of Christ, but for me as a Christian? church history studied by expert bible scholars lends a little more credence, but including this are the many past miracle healings in Christ's name, supernatural events (of one I myself have witnessed myself amongst thousands ot other witnesses) defying a scientific explanation. Yes there are hoaxes and always will be, but that does not cancel out the others. So no, far from the bible being a story book with lots of "lessons and clever little tales to teach us things about life and how to get on with eachother", it is very much a reality for millions around the world.

I dont share your view on the demonic, I definitely do feel they are what they are. But yes, I take onboard some of wha tyou have stated. Certainly there are some who are very easily suggested to and believing you are possessed could lead to believing you are healed (after exorcism). But not in a case where the supernatural is undeniable and you would need to read a few documented cases as I have done recently (one was an absolute shocker). Documented and verified with plenty of witnesses, but a long time ago now. This case was nothing to do with "suggestion or hallucination" but was without a doubt spiritual and violent, defying anything a human could possibly be capable of doing. This entails contortions, levitation, leaping onto walls and being able to stay there, horrific sounds out of a mouth, stench, ability to pick out which objects are blessed or not, speaking in foreign langauges (from a rather uneducate person) totally disfigured in appearance during the posession. They are out there and not so easily dismissed as "mental suggestion". Certainly, I'd say plenty of us would change our minds if we had been present at some an exorcism.