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Anon, how can you compare a kidney to a child in a womb? The child is a human being, it is not an organ!
Am I being a bad Christian because I haven't had kids? hmmm let's consider this. I am 34 and have been sick since age 15. I have spent most of my life like this without the chance to and have longed to be like others and be married with kids. Things did not work out for me in that way and this causes me quite a lot of inner pain, more than people know.. "be fruitful and multiply" means to have children once you are married. The single life, the religious life (priest nun etc), and the married life are all christian life options. Biblically endorsed by Jesus.
I did not intend to have a life like this, nor do I enjoy it. But I am not going against God's law by being poisoned and a nun is not going against God's law to spend their life in prayer for the world. If I had the option I would choose marriage and children, but for now? I cannot and possibly it may never occur. Circumstances as they are do not look good. So, my life being what it is, consists mainly of trying to find answers and being supported by others doing the same, which I have found on this forum.
If you read the entire bible, you get a much greater idea of what is expected. Be fruitful and multiply is true, but read the new testament as well and see how many people lived in celibacy devoting their lives to God. Neither of those lifestyles are sinful. Things are clearly pointed out.
If one cannot help being single due to circumstnaces, that is not their fault. I would not dare say such a thing to someone that had been ill or even paralysed or something else that I might not know about. But being under an anonymous handle makes that much easier <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
If the unborn child poses a risk to the mother, remember something it is a human being also. Dying isn't a crime, murder is. but again most abortioins are not performed because the Mother is at medical risk of dying, they are done becuase the baby is an inconvenience. Check the statistics! You are talking about a very rare medical case. If it was done becuase the Mother's life was at risk....I dont know that is very difficult. Only God can judge circumstnaces like that. IF I was in that situation? I have no idea what I would do. And I cannot judge someone who is, but I can say that a child in the womb is as human as you and I are. Nowhere in the bible does it refer to a child in the womb as a foetus or piece of tissue. Nor would I ever condemn the women who have been horribly pressured, confused, or uninformed of what is REALLY happening.
You can put any name you want on it to try and make it sound clinical and take away the human aspect as much as possible, but it doesn't change what it is. Abortion is a fancy term for termination of a life - murder. It is not done in self defense,so it isn't even man slaughter. Done to save the life of the Mother is a rare moral dilemma. Whether Mother's life is truly in danger.
Any inconvenience or discomfort is enough to "justify" abortion in my country. We have one of the worst rates in the world and I am ashamed of this scandal. I've seen more compassion towards animal cruelty and save the whales, than towards the helpless unborn child. The womb has become the most dangerous place in the world for a human being, yet it should be the safest.
And here you are sitting here with a life typing on a computer under an anonymous name deciding whether a child in a womb has a right to live or not, whilst youve already been given that right. Are you aware that a child in the womb has full DNA from conception? Unfolding until old age and death if you're lucky to get that far!
We all hate what the nazis did in world war II when they EXTERMINATED (a term that sounds much like one is getting rid of vermin) 20 million human beings in what is called the HOLOCAUST. How much more should we detest and oppose the ABORTION HOLOCAUST which has seen the extermination of over a billion helpless human beings worldwide?
It's just as well for you and me that mass slaughter did not begin decades earlier, otherwise it's possible that each of us would not even be having this discussion.
Any woman that has had an abortion and regrets doing it or thinks twice is open to God's mercy. It is not for anybody to condemn them, but rather I am obligated as a Christian to stand up and speak out for those without a voice if/when the opportunity arises.
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